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The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby Paññāsikhara » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:50 am

My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby PeterB » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:05 am

I think a vital point needs making here. A point which at first may not be obviously relevant.
There is a maked trend on all forums other than the Classical Theravda for D.W. to become a defacto Mahayana forum.
Or at least a forum where Mahayanists can agree with each other.
I find this deeply disappointing and is one of the reasons I stopped posting.
No loss you might think. But i dont think I am alone.
There are a number of Buddhists forae which cater for the needs of the Mahayana.
There is only one English forum which is International and which is specifically for the Theravada. And it i in dangers losing its raison d'etre.
The fact is you cant make someone love you forcibly.
And while I have no doubt concerning the motives of those who identify with the Mahayana or with no school ( which of course turns out to be the Mahayana by default anyway ) I actually see less, not more, dialogue going on as Dhamma Wheel simply morphs into a bully pulpit for the Mahayana to assert their rights.
And I have no doubt that this will continue until the only Theravadin input apart from mods will be largely confined to the Classical Theravada forum.
I am not sure that is even what Mahayanists want. As they wave to other over the tumbleweed.

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby PeterB » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:47 am

I would ask Tilt that you consider the possibility that there might be at least an element of truth in my contention.
I think that there is a degree of "mission drift" and that in an commendable effort to sew harmony rather than discord a balance has been lost and needs to be regained.

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby BlackBird » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:02 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby protosphere » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:25 pm

Well, that was an interesting reading. Had a few laughs, learned a few things.

to the "Wizard in the Forest": is that more clear now? :stirthepot:

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby protosphere » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:56 pm

If I might, I would recommend the following reading to the OP:

Warder, A.K., Indian Buddhism, Motilal Banarsidass Publishers, 3rd edition, 2000 (2008 for reprint).

Great reading, quite accessible, and it covers "original" Buddhism presupposed by the traditions of the different schools known to us, and the development of the latter ones and how they modified the original doctrine. A.K. Warder is a great scholar on that topic.

Sorry about my english, not my mother tongue.

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby Wizard in the Forest » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:12 pm

Image

Theravada

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Mahayana.

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The path to enlightenment.

In order to make it through the gap, we got to let go of both vehicles, but admittedly I think one can get through more easily, so that is why I am Theravada.

makes sense?
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Re: The specific differences between Mahayana and Theravada?

Postby Virgo » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:43 pm

I see it like this:

Theravada:

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Mahayana:

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