Dexing wrote: Huifeng wrote:
Dexing wrote:Lately I've seen some pictures of both black and white monks in China. I know a lot of them actually ordain in Taiwan, and may perhaps go to the mainland. But I wonder if it is possible for a foreigner to ordain in mainland China and continue a monastic life there. Might anyone know? I suspect they may require first to obtain citizenship there.
The short answer is "No".
And the reason being what? Citizenship/visa issues?... anyway, I'd assume government?
The basic reason is that non citizens cannot study at Buddhist colleges there, and in a way, really can't even live in the monasteries in the same way as the monastics (would have to be in a separate guest house, or equivalent).
My Chan master has been a monk in China since the mid-80's and is currently restoring a couple monasteries in another province and will take abbotcy/management of them. I'll bring this question up with him next time we meet.
Very true, Will. There are only a few of them / us.
In your organization, you must mean...
Very few in this, or any other organization, by my count. Note, original point was "It is possible for non-Chinese to ordain in the Chinese tradition outside China, but even that is not a simple affair." Cf. Theravada, Zen, Tibetan traditions, etc.
How many do you count? <-- not a rhetorical question, I really am curious.
PS: I think the word you were looking for is "abbacy" (?).