Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

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Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby sangyey » Sat May 26, 2012 1:45 pm

What is Yeshe Ysogyal's relationship to Vajrayogini?

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby Malcolm » Sat May 26, 2012 1:51 pm





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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby sangyey » Sat May 26, 2012 2:29 pm

:anjali:

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby Kelwin » Sat May 26, 2012 5:18 pm

I'm familiar with Vajrayogini from the Kagyu perspective, but how common is she in Nyingma lineages? (I am aware of the somewhat artificial dichotomy here).
Are there terma practices of Vajrayogini that are used within a Nyingma and Dzogchen context?

Edit: PS I didn't mean to hijack the thread, I hope the original question is sufficiently answered by Malcolm's reply. I would however be interested to know, if there are Nyingma practices of her, in the same dancing posture, and if Yeshe Tsogyal plays a role in the Sadhanas.
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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby Malcolm » Sat May 26, 2012 5:37 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


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Human life spent in
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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby Kelwin » Sat May 26, 2012 5:51 pm

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby Malcolm » Sat May 26, 2012 7:55 pm





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Human life spent in
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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby sangyey » Sat May 26, 2012 9:40 pm

How about relationship with Tara?

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby Malcolm » Sat May 26, 2012 9:51 pm





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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby conebeckham » Mon May 28, 2012 3:49 pm

You'll find Varahi in the Bumzang, which is included in the Rinchen Terdzo.


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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby sangyey » Mon May 28, 2012 7:05 pm

Who is Varahi?

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby deff » Mon May 28, 2012 7:14 pm

Vajravarahi, a form of Vajrayogini: http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/Vajravarahi :smile:

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby sangyey » Mon May 28, 2012 7:42 pm

Is Vajrayogini understood differently in Nyingma? I also heard that she has a form giving birth (to spiritual attainments)?

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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby conebeckham » Tue May 29, 2012 1:08 am

The so-called "Kagyu form"--left leg down, right leg drawn up, right arm brandishing Driguk, left holding kapala at heart--is iconographically the same as Indrabuhuti's Vajrayogini. The Karma Kagyu Yogini/Varahi practices revolve around this iconographical form. Vajravarahi is the inner form of Tsogyal, while Troma is the innermost form...

My point was that you will find the iconographically same form in the Nyingma terma traditions, most notably in the Bumzang, which was an earlier collection of Terma liturgy, and which was a major inspiration for the Rinchen Terdzo--modern editions of Rinchen Terdzo contain quite a few Bumzang empowerments and practices.


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It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
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Re: Yeshe Tsogyal/Vajrayogini

Postby simhamuka » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:18 am

Sengdongma has an easy job, because there are no enemies.


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