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 Post subject: Dzogchen and aliens
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:40 am 
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It is said that there are over 6 million different slokas of Dzogchen in the universe of which only a fragment are on Earth. I was wondering why so many words would be required to describe the same thing and then I thought it isn't really that they are describing the state of Dzogchen, since words are just so much dross anyway, but describing the practices. Then again, if they were describing the practices, why would they need so many words too, unless they were meant for beings with wildly different biological configurations to homo sapiens.


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 Post subject: Re: Dzogchen and aliens
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:43 am 
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I think the point is that there are infinite ways of expressing Dzogchen, just as there are infinite sentient beings going through different kinds of experiences, and infinite Buddhas who arise to help. I don't think it makes sense to interpret this as "that many words are required" or even "that many practices are necessary," but just that Dzogchen itself is the self-perfected state, and from that state flow infinite teachings that beings can relate to.


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 Post subject: Re: Dzogchen and aliens
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:57 pm 
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I cant talk about Dzogchen since i dont know its doctrine.

I can, however, talk about astronomy and ufo evidence:
- astronomy teach us that there is an average of 1,5 planets for every star in our galaxy. We have something like 100 000 000 000 stars on our galaxy....thats a lot. And we have that number of galaxys in our universe. Of course that most of the planets are absent of life but probably we will have a BIG number of then with life and probably a few thousands with inteligent life.

- there are lots of evidences that inteligent life, from another plant or dimension, already contacted us. We cannot deny the evidence for ufos.


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 Post subject: Re: Dzogchen and aliens
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CNNR pointed out many times that Dzog chen is simultaneosly practised and tought on 13 different solar systems.
So You can also not call them aliens, but according to ancient Dzog Chen tantras there some other beeings in the universe practising dzog chyen besides people on the earth planet


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 Post subject: Re: Dzogchen and aliens
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:07 pm 
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dorje e gabbana wrote:
CNNR pointed out many times that Dzog chen is simultaneosly practised and tought on 13 different solar systems.
So You can also not call them aliens, but according to ancient Dzog Chen tantras there some other beeings in the universe practising dzog chyen besides people on the earth planet



Tashi delek,

We are sure not the only place where Dzogchen is teached and where humans live.

- But would Dzogchen also teached to non-humans / other living beings called?
- Are those teachings done by maybe a Buddha ?


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 Post subject: Re: Dzogchen and aliens
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:22 am 
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kalden yungdrung wrote:
dorje e gabbana wrote:
CNNR pointed out many times that Dzog chen is simultaneosly practised and tought on 13 different solar systems.
So You can also not call them aliens, but according to ancient Dzog Chen tantras there some other beeings in the universe practising dzog chyen besides people on the earth planet



Tashi delek,

We are sure not the only place where Dzogchen is teached and where humans live.

- But would Dzogchen also teached to non-humans / other living beings called?
- Are those teachings done by maybe a Buddha ?


Mutsog Marro
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1) It would be called by some name in an alien language.

2) Yes.

What I think would be interesting is if the aliens have physiologies that differ greatly from humans -- how would their longde and mennagde work?


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