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Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma? - Dhamma Wheel

Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

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Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby Jeremie » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:09 pm

Hello,

I intent to go on Vipassaná retreat. I am seeking a place with an environment suitable for meditation and with serious teachers speaking English.
In Burma, due to the fact that this country is to my knowledge the best place for it, and besides I have been learning Burmese for 3 years..
I went last year but I would like to find a better place than the one I was.

Can someone who knows about this recommend me a good meditation centre?


Thanks

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:26 pm

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:35 pm

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/mahasi.htm

I think this is the website.

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:45 pm

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby Goofaholix » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:01 pm

I'd recommend Shwe Oo Min http://sayadawutejaniya.org/

Where did you go last time?

What was it about the place you went last time that makes you feel you need to find something better?

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby Jeremie » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:07 pm

I know the branches you mentioned. I just ask if someone knows a precise address to go.

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:18 pm

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby Moggalana » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:45 am

Meditation in Southeast Asia from http://www.retreat-infos.de with addresses (in English): http://www.retreat-infos.de/Download/RFAE2010.pdf
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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby cooran » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:11 am

Excellent Moggalana! Thank you!

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:59 pm

Hi Goofaholix

'Right effort, right mindfulness, & right concentration come under the aggregate of concentration'.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... ml#visakha

"And what, monks, is right effort?

[i] "There is the case where a monk generates desire, endeavors, activates persistence, upholds & exerts his intent for the sake of the non-arising of evil, unskillful qualities that have not yet arisen.

[ii] "He generates desire, endeavors, activates persistence, upholds & exerts his intent for the sake of the abandonment of evil, unskillful qualities that have arisen.

[iii] "He generates desire, endeavors, activates persistence, upholds & exerts his intent for the sake of the arising of skillful qualities that have not yet arisen.

[iv] "He generates desire, endeavors, activates persistence, upholds & exerts his intent for the maintenance, non-confusion, increase, plenitude, development, & culmination of skillful qualities that have arisen: This, monks, is called right effort."

— SN 45.8

He talks of curiosity- of mind states- but that is pretty mundane. There is no talk of vipassana nana.

I might be mistaken but I would be interested in seeing anything he has said/written about vipasana nana.

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:09 pm

I've listened to some of Sayadaw U Tejaniya's talks (though since they were given in Burmese then English I wouldn't like to do that a lot) and it seemed very vipassana oriented. Steve Armstrong (who has also trained with U Panditata) mentions him quite a lot in his talks in a vipassana context.

Mahasi-style teachers such as Armstrong, Goldstein, Kearney only occasionally mention the insight nanas, so sampling a few talks is unlikely to give a complete picture.

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby rowyourboat » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:27 pm

Hi Mike

I dont know if you know this but there is a qualitative difference in what people like Joesph Goldstein talk about. It is the shift in emphasis, their style -something which is difficult to express really... that lead me to my observations. With some people you know instantly that that person has been through the vipassana nanas by what they communicate when they discuss the dhamma. With Samatha teachers it is also distinct in the way they talk about the dhamma. A more concrete way of noting the difference is reading what they have said (if anything at all) about vipassana nana. Sometimes there is a grey area (a superficial one at least) where samatha teachers are simply talking about anicca, dukkha, anatta ..because they have to at some point... There is a lack of depth and it smells of old manuscript rather than personal experience..

In any case I am fairly sure that my observations on the matter are 'on the money'. It is the difference between a teenager talking about the hardships of having to earn a living vs a jobbing dad talking about it.

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Re: Where practicing Vipassaná in Burma?

Postby rowyourboat » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:31 pm

Hi Goofaholix,

I know many teachers teach right effort and right mindfulness- the point is that these are the foundation practices for both vipassana and samatha. For vipassana to get off the ground there must be sustained, persistant awareness of the impermanence of stimuli arising in the 6 sense bases. Everything else falls into the samatha samadhi camp.

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