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Re: American Politics

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Re: American Politics

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Just that! *smile*


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Re: American Politics

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Hmmm....all I can say is:
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Re: American Politics

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Just that! *smile*


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Re: American Politics

Postby alan » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:09 am

Tilt: Funny stuff! Thanks.
David and all conservatives: deficit spending saved the capitalist system. We need more stimulus. After that, taxes will have to be raised on the wealthy.

Surely you see the unfairness inherent in allowing the top 1 percent to gain, while the rest lose?

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Re: American Politics

Postby alan » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:34 am

"Balanced budget" has been chosen by the Tea Party overlords--the propagandists who control those feeble minds not capable of independent thought--as a key rallying point.
But how many teabaggers have the slightest clue about economics? I'd say zero. Deficit spending, for example, is crucial in a crisis like the one we are experiencing. In the face of zero demand, Government is the spender of last resort. Deficits can be paid off later; avoiding catastrophic collapse is paramount. Hence TARP, Hence Auto bailout. Both of which have worked, by the way.
Even in good times going into deficit is not always bad. Investing heavily in infrastructure, for instance, has been shown to pay for itself in future productivity gains.
I'm afraid Americans have been brainwashed by the likes of FOX news and other corporate-controlled media to act against their own best interests.
Truth is, there is a positive role for Government to play. American history shows us that. But most "folks" nowadays have been brainwashed to think otherwise, which is a tragedy.

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Re: American Politics

Postby alan » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:55 am

That is the whole point of a strong Federal government--to curb the excesses of the powerful, and to help insure the well being of society. It is the basic social contract at the heart of the Constitution.

Comparisons to Soviet Russia are irrelevant at best.

As for your idea on taxation, I'd like to hear how anyone who cares about social justice could claim those at the top of the pyramid--those who have obviously benefited from the system--should not be required to pay a higher share of their incomes than wage-slaves. Want to talk about greed? Your opinions express it perfectly.

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Re: American Politics

Postby Modus.Ponens » Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:03 am

Hi Virgo

So why do people have to pay the same percentage of taxes? by your logic that is also an unfair redistribution of wealth! So by your logic, people should pay a fixed amount of money (not percentage), rich or poor.

Progressive taxes exist for a reason: to correct the unjustices of capitalism. Why should people with the same ammount of effort in their work (like a fisherman and the president of microsoft) and not that great difference in talent, have such a huge difference of income?

Finaly, your refference to URSS is ridiculous. There are successful forms of government in Europe that are not savage capitalism and not comunism. For your information, nordic countries have more social mobility than the US so the american dream is realy a farse.
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