you guys saying there's no such thing, can only be learned from a teacher, etc.
Well, just saying that there is no "end all be all manual", really.
There are still a lot of very useful books, manuals, and so forth.
two points: there is a vast body of chan/zen literature, a lot of it by masters so clearly many chan/zen masters thought manuals and written instruction are important.
That would be like saying that because a lot of the Buddha's teachings are written down, therefore the Buddha thought manuals and written instructions very useful.
Often these things were written down by the students of the teachers. Usually, the teachers themselves went through a long process of study - mainly sutra and sastra. But, they couldn't break through. It was only when they encountered a "bright teacher" (mingshi), that they had the break through. And that usually occurred late one night in the Dharma Hall (Fa Tang). Then, recalling the incident later, their students wrote the event down.
So, rather than reading somebody else's encounter, just go and find your own. The former will not be the "end all be all" instruction, just like taking somebody else's prescription medicine will not cure your own disease. Only when you go to the doctor who is the bright teacher, who sees your illness, will the prescription be your own.
and point 2: my post asks for chan or buddhism and i specifically said ''even if you don't think there is one...'' meaning i anticipated people saying what you're saying and was asking for you to give a manual regardless.
Sure, I read that. But, I'd still point to finding your teacher. In earlier threads you mention that you have a "Chan teacher", in fact, I believe you referred to them as a "Chan master". Go ask them! Would you go to the doctor and ask the other people in the waiting room for a prescription? Or the nurse?
so what's the point of telling me this, when i already know many people think like you guys and said roughly so in the op?
What's the point? Because I don't want you to waste your time in samsara, but to quickly free yourself.
The doctor is waiting, but you still have to go and ask him/ her...