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Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:39 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

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Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:46 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:50 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:56 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:02 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby clw_uk » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:10 pm

Alex I really would like to stress that your view is quite dangerous


I will give you an example from my own life


I was a cocaine addict for quite a while, then I read the four noble truths

Now I had a choice when I read them, continue shoving shit up my nose or practice

The view your expound would have me snorting my nose away, since my past experience and conditioning was cocaine = good (think pavlov's dog)

However there was a choice to go against that and choose a different path (which was f*** hard btw :jumping: )


But in your teaching I would be determined to coke and not Buddhadhamma


WWhy should I try to change if all is determined, I mean what the heck there is no morals (morals depend on choice) or no hope and everything gets worked out in the end anyway, right?
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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:12 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:16 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:34 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Did the Buddha teach that we have choice?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:39 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."


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