gingercatni wrote:This is an excerpt from the Heart sutra, via a commentary of said sutra, can someone explain this?
A. Amitabha dies?
B. Avalokitesvara becomes Ratnasambhava buddha?
Good sons, after the period of the true dharma of Amitabha
Buddha has vanished, when a bright star [that might be Venus]
appears after midnight, Avalokite$vara Bodhisattva, sitting
cross-legged under the bodhi-tree decorated with the seven
treasures, will attain perfect supreme enlightenment and will be
called the ‘Jewel Sign-Buddha (Ratnaketu Tath2gata)’ who fulfills
the ten epithets and whose land is called ‘the majestic paradise
ornamented with various jewels’ (Joongbo-Jangum).”
LastLegend wrote:We gonna have to trust that Buddha will not abandon us before he leaves because of his compassion.
The Buddha said,
“Good man, although Amitābha Buddha’s lifespan will last innumerable hundreds, thousands, and koṭis of kalpas, it will finally come to an end. Good man, after incalculable distant kalpas to come, Amitābha Buddha will enter Parinirvāṇa.
After His Parinirvāṇa, the true Dharma will continue for as long as His lifespan.
The number of sentient beings that will be delivered will equal that during His life.
After Amitābha’s Parinirvāṇa, some sentient beings there will not be able to see a Buddha.
However, Bodhisattvas who have attained the Thinking-of-Buddhas Samādhi will constantly see Amitābha Buddha.
Furthermore, good man, after His Parinirvāṇa, all the precious things, such as bathing ponds, lotus flowers, and jeweled trees in lines, will continue to sound Dharma tones, in the same way as during that Buddha’s life.
“Good man, [the night] Amitābha Buddha’s true Dharma ends, after the midnight period, when the dawn breaks, Avalokiteśvara Bodhisattva, seated cross-legged under the bodhi tree made of the seven treasures, will attain anuttara-samyak-saṁbodhi.
He will be called Universal Radiance Virtue Mountain King, the Tathāgata, Arhat, Samyak-Saṁbuddha, Knowledge and Action Perfected, Sugata, Understanding the World, Unsurpassed One, Tamer of Men, Teacher to Gods and Humans, Buddha the World-Honored One. His Buddha Land will be naturally made of the seven treasures.
Even in kalpas as numerous as the sands of the Ganges, Buddha-Bhagavāns will not be able to finish describing its splendors. Good man, I now give you an analogy. As Golden Light Lion Frolic Tathāgata’s land was magnificent, Universal Radiance Virtue Mountain King Tathāgata’s land will surpass it billions of times, koṭis of times, koṭis of billions of times, even beyond reckoning. The names ‘voice-hearers’ and ‘Pratyekabuddhas’ will be nonexistent in that Buddha’s land. Only Bodhisattvas will fill His land.”
Flower Virtue Store Bodhisattva asked the Buddha, “World-Honored One, will that Buddha’s land still be called Peace and Bliss?”
The Buddha replied, “Good man, that Buddha’s land will be called Adorned with Gathering of Multitudinous Treasures. Good man, until His Parinirvāṇa, Universal Radiance Virtue Mountain King Tathāgata will be attended personally by Great Might Arrived Bodhisattva and will receive his offerings. After His parinirvāṇa, His true Dharma will be upheld [by Great Might Arrived Bodhisattva] until its end. After the end of the true Dharma, Great Might Arrived Bodhisattva will, in that land, attain anuttara-samyak-saṁbodhi. He will be called Well Established Virtue Treasure King, the Tathāgata, Arhat, Samyak-Saṁbuddha, Knowledge and Action Perfected, Sugata, Understanding the World, Unsurpassed One, Tamer of Men, Teacher to Gods and Humans, Buddha the World-Honored One. His land, His radiance, His lifespan, His Bodhisattvas, and even the duration of His Dharma will be just like those of Universal Radiance Virtue Mountain King Tathāgata. If, among good men and good women, there are those who have heard the name Well Established Virtue Treasure King Tathāgata, they will not regress from their resolve to attain anuttara-samyak-saṁbodhi.
"South of here is a mountain called Potalaka, where an Enlightening Being named Avalokiteshvara lives.
Go ask Him how to learn and carry out the practice of Enlightening Beings."
Then Veshthila said in verse,
“Go, Sudhana, to Mount Potalaka in the ocean, a Pure Abode of the Valiant,
Made of jewels, covered with trees, scattered with flowers,
Complete with gardens, ponds, and streams.
On the mountain the steady, wise Avalokiteshvara dwells for the benefit of the world.
Go ask Him the virtues of the Guides—He will teach you great, wonderful means of attainment.”
So Sudhana paid his respects to Veshthila and went on.
sinweiy wrote:i think we can use the trikaya to see this.
all Buddhas have three form of bodies, Three kayas: the dharmakaya, or absolute body; the sambhogakaya, or body of divine enjoyment; and the nirmanakaya, or manifested body. And western Pureland have 4 abodes.
to me the nirmanakaya, or manifested body of Amitabha dwell in the first and/or second abode.
sambhogakaya at third and dharmakaya at four and final abode.
nirmanakaya do have birth and death.
sambhogakaya have birth but no death.
dharmakaya do not have birth non death, never come non go.
as mentioned before, Amitabha is an Emanation body ; the corresponding Enjoyment body is Amitayus, "infinite life"-propitiated for longevity; the Dharma body is Ananta-prabha, "boundless illumination."
hence the "death" is only perceive in the eyes of the "less" enlightened beings in western Pureland.
just like in Lotus sutra, we perceive that Shakyamuni Buddha parinirvana 2500 years ago, but He stated that He's always here helping and liberating sentient beings.
who knows actually, Avalokitesvara, Shakyamuni, Amitabha are equally one in the point of view of the Dharmakaya.
not only them, but sentient beings and Buddhas are one in the point of view of the Dharmakaya.
Caz wrote:Buddha's cant die as Buddha is a mind. A gross form body may die because it has a limited function even the supreme manifestation body of Buddha ceased to function yet his mind didn't it still functions to grant us blessings today
Nighthawk wrote:Ok now it makes more complete sense. So his nimanakaya form (Amitabha) ceases to exist while his sambhogakaya form (Amitayus) lives on forever continuing to benefit beings but can only be seen by high level bodhisattvas? Correct?
Nighthawk wrote:Sambhogakaya form ceases to exist as well? Where have you read this?
sinweiy wrote:Nighthawk wrote:Sambhogakaya form ceases to exist as well? Where have you read this?
Sambhogakaya or Bliss after which you attained it, is yours forever. it will never cease.
that's why i mentioned Sambhogakaya has a begining but no ending.