tobes wrote:Thrasymachus wrote:
Personally as a vegan I know I am doing a very small favor to livestock animals by being on the vanguard of the animal liberation movement with my dietary choice, not to mention the health and environmental benefits. Every year over 10 billion totally enslaved animals are slaughtered so Americans can be one of the fattest populations around the globe.
How about this argument Thrasymachus: If no one ate meat, those 10 billion animals would not ever be born. If you care for their sentience, isn't it better that they exist rather than they never exist?
Five years in a paddock, as a sentient creature, is surely more valuable than non-existence.
The cause of those 5 years of sentient life? People eating meat!
You want an argument about causality, here it is. Advocating global veganism is not simply advocating the cessation of killing: it is also advocating the cessation of breeding, birth, life and the existence of however many animals are desired by humans for food.
No, he wants us all to keep them as pets. Oh right, I forgot, keeping pets is chattle slavery too. I guess we just cut all these cows, chickens and pigs loose and let them fend for themselves.