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Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Tue May 01, 2012 2:31 am

Greetings all,

Does anyone own a kindle fire? If so, what are your thoughts? Would you recommend it?
Thanks

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby rowboat » Tue May 01, 2012 3:48 am

It depends on what it is you want. Do you want a tablet computer or an e-reader? If you want a tablet computer get an ipad. If you want an e-reader then I''d suggest you skip on the Kindle Fire and get yourself the newer Graphite version of the Kindle DX, which is much larger (for ease of reading) than the other Kindle e-readers. (The Kindle DX Graphite has 50% stronger contrast with their e-ink technology.)

Size comparison between standard Kindles and the Kindle DX: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... and_K2.jpg
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby retrofuturist » Tue May 01, 2012 3:55 am

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Re: Kindle Fire

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Tue May 01, 2012 5:23 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby rowboat » Tue May 01, 2012 6:09 am

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That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby David2 » Tue May 01, 2012 6:26 am

Yeah, an ebook reader is far better for ebooks than a tablet.

Kindle DX has a very nice size (it's definitely better for most pdf-files with rather small characters), but it's also 3.8 times more expensive than a normal-sized kindle (which I have).
Everybody has to decide on his own if the bigger size of the DX is worth the prize.

On the other hand, I think it's very possible that the prize of the DX will decrease in the future to become attractive to more people.

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Tue May 01, 2012 6:28 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby rowboat » Tue May 01, 2012 6:47 am

You might consider buying a refurbished or used Kindle DX Graphite, either through Amazon or from private sellers locally. Purchased this way a Kindle DX Graphite should only set you back ~ $250. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby David2 » Tue May 01, 2012 7:15 am

According to Wikipedia, the present Kindle DX graphite version was released on 7/1/2010, which is almost 2 years ago now. So waiting a few months for a new version which might be cheaper could be an alternative, too.

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Re: Kindle Fire

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Tue May 01, 2012 8:32 am

Ben,

I have the Kindle Fire and a 2nd generation Kindle. They are certainly different beasts altogether. I, personally, really like the Fire and the fact that it can be modified to work as a tablet. I don't mind the fact the lack of e-ink on it but I suppose I also end up using the Fire as another PC more than a book. Hope this helps and good luck!
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby bodom » Tue May 01, 2012 10:57 am

Hi Ben

I have the Nook Tablet and absolutely love it:

Nook Tablet
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-ta ... 1104687969

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Sun May 06, 2012 3:15 am

Thank you everyone who offered advice in this thread. It was greatly appreciated.
We decided to purchase a Kindle Touch which I will receive in a few days.
No doubt, I will probably inundate kindle owners with questions (hopefully not too many).
Again, many thanks!
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby rowboat » Sun May 06, 2012 3:33 am

That's great, Ben. Please give us an update in a few weeks to let us know how comfortable you find it to read on the device. For myself, I really like my e-reader, although I didn't expect that I would be this satisfied with it. As a person who has been buying and collecting books since my teens, I expected to be only marginally impressed, if at all. Then I loaded forty or fifty free dhamma books in about an hour -- all books I would have eventually purchased in hard copy -- and I realized the thing had paid for itself several times over. (And my eyes are no longer constantly watering.)
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Sun May 06, 2012 4:45 am

Thanks, Rowboat. I'll definitely let you know how I get on with it!
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby BKh » Sun May 06, 2012 6:04 pm

I lost track of this thread before I could post a link to this page...

http://readingfaithfully.org/2011/10/24 ... -nook-etc/

I've collected some of my observations on using an e-book reader intensively for sutta practice. I too was surprised at how useful it is. But there are limitations. I would love to hear about the experience folks have had using them.

I also have this page where I am collecting all of the sutta related e-pub/Mobi books that I find out about...
http://readingfaithfully.org/book-sourc ... bi-kindle/

One of the best resources, in my opinion, is the Pali language texts. It allows you to read the Pali side by side with the print book, which is standard for Asian print editions, nos so much for English ones.
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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Sun May 06, 2012 9:47 pm

Thank you, Bhante!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Kindle Fire

Postby Ben » Sat May 12, 2012 8:36 am

Hi everyone,
Well, I settled on a Kindle Touch (wifi) and it was given to me as a gift a few days ago. I have been really impressed with the reading experience on the kindle and with the touch screen its very easy to use.
I treated myself to my first novel in over a decade and pre-ordered John Irving's new novel "In One Person". The kindle edition was one fifth of the price of the new release hardback in the bookshops. I used the kindle email service and sent myself the pdf of Venerable Analayo's "The Genesis of the Bodhisatva Ideal". I've found the pdf file a bit more difficult to read but still good. A few minutes ago I purchased the Dhammapada Commentary by Buddhaghosa on Amazon for the whopping price of $3.50. No sooner did I purchase it then it appeared on the kindle.
Another neat feature is that I can pick up my book from where I left off if I read it from the kindle, from my computer or the iphone.
Thanks again to everyone for your device recommendations and a very big thank you to Venerable for compiling lists of Buddhist resources which I will take advantage of in the near future.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Kindle Fire

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