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wanting, needing, hoping for a textual reference

Postby tiltbillings » Sat May 09, 2009 6:16 am

From Conze:

1. There is form, i.e. the tooth as matter.
2. There is a painful feeling.
3. There is a sight-, touch-, pain- perception of the tooth.
4. There is by the way of volitional reactions: resentment at pain, fear of possible consequences, greed for physical well-being, etc.
5. There is consciousness, -- an awareness of all this.


There is a sutta, I think, that states that with the arising of awareness - #5, that 4, 3, 2 are always part of the experience. Anyone know of such a text?

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Re: wanting, needing, hoping for a textual reference

Postby Cittasanto » Sat May 09, 2009 7:52 am

I think there is very familiar I will have a look in a min.

I cant find the sutta I had in mind but have look for the khandhas, their is one which explains them but cant seam to find it http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... tml#ananda maybe this one will help find it


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