plwk wrote:And from an Indonesian Buddhist forum site: http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=4961978&page=4
(I can understand the Indonesian but would lack the skills to translate it into English...)
We could work on the Indonesian and compare it to the Chinese. I have run the first vow through Kataku and have a rough translation of the first vow (which needs a lot of cleanup):
When having the human beings who were born in triloka,bila Aku that began or the other side that began, depended with nidana, or when the Catursunyapancasubha Management, headed by Cattvari Dhyanani Brahmaraja, headed by Sadkama, Indra headed by the gods, Caturdewa the management caturcakra, the management of the gods and the dragon, headed by the creature's eight groups, headed by the Patron Buddhist Dharma, the management sangharama, headed by Caturmahadharaloka, headed by Vajradrdha, headed by the God of the Pelindung Service of the Country, the management of the big and small country, headed by four of King Kecil, headed by the soldiers, the management of the capital, the amphibious creature, and that was born from the egg uterus - humidity and spontaneous, nine worm kinds, all that bernyawa, that was born in three periods, may Buddha become his witness, who had never heard my name, I was determined to make them hear him, that listened to my name, or that was in Dharma Ku, that the human beings awaken Bodhicitta and showered the service to Mahyana, menekuni the Anuttara road. If having the human being who used Dharma medicine or worldly medicine to cure that was sick, (as well as) calendar counting, art and diligence, literature, the singer, discussions and the presentation of praise songs that were useful, led humankind, or various works (performed a service) other that kind, (and with his service) led the layman to awaken Bodhicitta as well as the true view, (significant) all of them (has) berjodoh with me, received the Kebuddhaan road.
So it's not translating Sanskrit derived terms (isn't that strange as Indonesian has a fair number of Sanskrit derived words). The first vow is then something like: whoever is born in the Three Worlds Manjushri is determined to awaken Bodhicitta in them and to set them on the unsurpassed road to Mahayana and through the use of medicine, art and science to awaken Bodhicitta in laypeople and set them on [del]the road to the Buddha Body (Buddhahood)[/del] the path to Buddhahood. But there is also the notion of someone having a connection with Manjushri in the second half but the first half seems to say that if they have no connection with Manjushri he has determined to establish one.
The second great pledge: When having the human being, who slandered me, hated me, injured even killed me, whether to me, or he or that was other, always could not hate and receive the freedom (from his hatred), (I determined) to they berjodoh with me, and made them awaken Boddhicitta.
Something like: If anyone slanders me, hates me, injures me or even kills me or another I have determined to free them from their hatred, to establish affinity with me and to awaken them to Bodhicitta.
The third great pledge: When the human beings, liked the body jasmaniKu, when seeing me emerged the wish had, tried to get me; or did against my body and the other body fully the lie, was full of the wrong view, or did something that was holy and unholy, carried out all the crimes and all that was not good; (I determined) to they berjodoh with me, and made them awaken Boddhicitta.
Something like: When human beings desire my body (or someone elses body?), are filled with wrong view and commit unholy actions (presumably sensual and sexual actions) I have determined to establish affinity with them and awaken them to Bodhicitta.
The fourth great pledge: When having the human being, merendahkanKu, suspected me, nauseated to me, told lies on me, slandered Triratna, envy in Suci, told lies to all, often acted was not good, (I determined) to they berjodoh with me, and made them awaken Boddhicitta.
Something like: when a person accuses me, is disgusted with me, slanders me or the Triple Gem, is envious and spreads lies about me and acts improperly I determined to establish affinity with them and awaken them to Bodhicitta.
The Agung pledge of the five: When having the human being, did not appreciate me, humiliated me, embarrassed and was sorry for to me, who honored me, who did not honour me, obstructed me or did not obstruct me, made use of me or did not make use of me, having me or not having me, wanted me or did not want me, wanted me or not, followed me or not, saw me or not, (I determined) to they berjodoh with me, and made them awaken Boddhicitta.
Sort of: The fifth great vow: when a human being, does not appreciate me, humiliates me, embarrasses me or has negative views towards me, who honored me or did not honor me, obstructed me or did not obstruct me, used me or did not use me, enslaves (?) me or did not enslave me, wanted me or did not want me, followed me or not, saw me or not I determined to establish affinity with them and awaken them to Bodhicitta.
Since vows 2-5 all involve beings in the human world then likely part of the first vow is to try to find a way for beings in the Three Worlds to be reborn in the human realm.
And Manjushri seems to be establishing a kind of Shepherds kind of vow - he is determining to bring all beings to enlightenment before himself.
The Agung pledge of the six: When having the human being, often carried out the murder, mencelakai or menyembelih, butchered the pig or caught the fish, when revenge emerged killed each other, not the severing, from the birth for the sake of the birth repaid each other, the murder increasingly raged, in no way emerged regret, sold the body and took the wealth not with should to support himself, who had the heart like this, forever lost the human body and did not release the respondent dendaman. Like this, (I determined) to they berjodoh with me, and made them awaken Boddhicitta. When having the other person who took my property or I who gave him; or gave the fund donation to me, or I who gave a donation, all that could receive him and that did not receive him, (I determined) to they berjodoh with me, and made them awaken Boddhicitta.
Something like: The sixth great vow: when a human being murders another, kills and animal, kills another out of vengeance, when from birth to birth murder increases and regret is never generated, enslaves beings and robs them of their wealth, and (perhaps) thus blocked the path to a human rebirth, I determined to establish affinity with them and awaken them to Bodhicitta. When someone stole from me or I made a gift to them I determined to establish affinity with them and awaken them to Bodhicitta.
The Agung pledge of the seven: When having the human being, that member pujana to me, or I that member pujana to him. Or I or he who established Sangha holiday accommodation, arama, the Buddhist stupa, the place of meditation as well as the place penyepian; Or Aku and the other person made all the reward sorts, and made pratima Buddhist Bodhisattva, or pushed the other person to make a donation, gathered the blessing, afterwards was showered to Dharmadhatu, as well as Boddhi Buddha, to parai nsan together enjoyed this blessing. If having the person, the friend and the couple, the teacher and his student, the person who trained himself hard, with the position of the certain or fasting body; that undertook sila or violated him; that worked and not; the monk or Acarya the teacher, who heard my teaching, or I accepted his teaching, that together in working, all berjodoh with me, that they awaken Bodhicitta.
Something like: The seventh great vow: when a human performs puja to me or remembers (?) a puja to me, or celebrates a Dharma day or meditates by a stupa, or venerates a Bodhisattva or encourage another person to make a Dharma gift, gains the blessing (and something about sharing the blessing - maybe with the person they encouraged to make the offering). If the person has a friend or wife (?) or a teacher and trains diligently or fasts or undertakes discipline or violates the discipline, whoever hears my teaching or I accept their teaching, I will establish affinity with all of them and awaken them to Bodhicitta.
The eighth great pledge: When having the human being who always did the crime, (so as) fell in hell without having the opportunity meloloskan himself, until berkalpa-kalpa, continued to be whipped by various sufferings; left hell was born in five nature, before to the animal, used his life to pay karma the life passed, to the low animal animal like the dog, the pig, cattle, the goat, the elephant and the horse, or to the worker without resting, to pay karma, the life debt since many lives, returned what was stolen from him. I will always be born in the life that was the same as five nature, to give teaching, or become the very poor, blind, mute and deaf person, the person of the subordinate, around the human beings, to was the same the group and the same partner, was the same the work and was the same the work, (and) I will lead him entered the Kebuddhaan road; Berjodoh with Kusupaya they awakened Bodhicitta.
Something like: The eight great vow: when a human continuously commits negativities and consequently falls into hell without having the opportunity to redeem himself for many kalpas, continues to be tormented by various sufferings; leaving hell and is born in five rebirths, an animal rebirth, using his life to repay karma, to the low animal rebirth like the dog, the pig, cattle, the goat, the elephant and the horse, or to the worker without resting, to repay karma through their life over many lifetimes, (and finally repays the karma ?)
I will always be born in that same kind of life to give teaching, or become very poor, blind, mute and deaf person, a subordinate person among human beings, rebron in the same the group and the same partner, do the same work , thus I will lead him to enter Buddhahood; I will establish affinity with him and awaken him to Bodhicitta.
The Agung pledge of the nine: When having the human being, was full of the arrogant characteristics, so as to disgrace Dharma. The teacher and the student without embarrassment utilised Sangha possessions, Buddha, Bodhisattva, and killed and robbed, did the crime and told lies, said said that was not useful and bermulut bad, berlidah two and liked to quarrel, greedy and was full of hatred, did not re-educate himself in the service, stole the person's other wealth, liked to humiliate the other person, did not know good and bad, always carried out ten bad actions and all the other sins, after dying fell in avici, entered various hell kinds. After leaving hell, was again born in the six misery nature, entered the birth ocean and the death, as well as various low nature. It is hoped berjodoh with me, carried out the work and went dijalur that was same, changed appropriate nidana, definitely will help him, that they are released. It is hoped berjodoh with me and awakened Bodhicitta.
The ninth great vow: when a human being is full of arrogant characteristics, disgraces the Dharma, without embarrassment appropriates possenssions of the Sangha, Buddhas, or Bodhisattvas, or killed and robbed the Sangha, Buddhas or Bodhisattvas, did the crime and told lies, likes to quarrel, is greedy and full of hatred, and did not re-educate himself in the Dharma, stole the person's other wealth, likes to humiliate others, and does not know the good and bad, always carries out the ten bad actions and all the other sins, and after dying fell in Avici Hell, and enteres various kinds of hell. After leaving hell, is again born in the six natures of misery, enters the ocean of birth and death, as well as various low rebirths. If they wish for affinity with me, carry out the work and change their actions, I will definitely him and release him. Their repentance (?) will establish affinity with me and awaken them to Bodhicitta.
The Agung pledge of the ten: When having the human being, that berjodoh with me and with my method, or that not berjodoh, (although) they had the similarity of the Agung Pledge with me, received the body (like) I, not his difference with me. Undertook Catur Brahma Vihara, the heart measuring the space; rescued the area human being relentlessly, was determined to reach Boddhi, investigated the Anuttara Samyaksamboddhi road. Maharya Manjusri, with the pledge that was provided a basis for by the characteristics of grandeur, did not enter triloka, also did not go out from triloka; the Heart like the space, always was in the characteristics ocean of the Tathagata holiness, Tathagatagarbha. Resided in Dharmadhatu, was in the awareness of each human being.
The tenth great vow: When a human being undertakes the Four Brahma Viharas (The Four Immeasurables), with a heart measuring space; relentlessly rescues the human realm, and is determined to reach Enlightenment and followes the path of Unsurpassed Complete Enlightenment. Maharaja (?) Manjusri, with the vow that provided a basis for the characteristics of grandeur, who did not enter the Three Realms, and also did leave the Three Realms; with a the Heart like space, and always abides in the characteristics of the Ocean of Tathagata Holiness, Tathagatagarbha, resides in Dharmadhatu, and is in the awareness of each human being.
So something like if a person raises and abides in the Four Immeasurables I am there with him and will awaken their Buddha Nature?
What do you think? What does the Chinese say? And how should the Indonesian translation be modified?