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The meaning of Near Death Experiences

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kirk5a
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The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby kirk5a » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:42 am

Very interesting article by Mario Beauregard.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/near_death_explained/
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby Ben » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:23 am

Hi Kirk,
I am reading it and finding it most interesting!
Thanks for sharing.

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby cooran » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:07 am

Hello Kirk,

Very interesting and thought provoking. Thank you!

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby kirk5a » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:56 am

Mario Beauregard's book "Brain Wars: The Scientific Battle Over the Existence of the Mind and the Proof That Will Change the Way We Live Our Lives" is newly available today - I just downloaded the Kindle version. Looking forward to seeing what else is in there.
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby Ben » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:03 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby polarbear101 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:22 am

Interesting story, but I still think it should be taken with a grain of salt. What we need is random number generators on top of shelves out of sight (as in, on a high shelf) and if people can remember that number when they are floating near the ceiling looking at their body and see that number on the high shelf and tell the doctors the number after they come back into their bodies and its right then I will be thoroughly convinced of a true indisputable separation between mind and body, until then I'm agnostic on the matter cause I have no idea how valid these experiences really are. I mean, people also claim that they've been to hell and back and one guy that was an atheist became a christian minister after going to hell in his near death experience after he prayed to jesus and was sent back to his body.
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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby Moggalana » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:25 am

Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby Moggalana » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:58 pm

And here is a direct reaction to the article linked in the OP.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... -delusion/

it's well worth a read despite the rather nasty writing style.
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Re: The meaning of Near Death Experiences

Postby Will » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:21 pm

If I recall, one element of Right View concerned the reality of other realms and higher beings. Since literacy is waning in influence and the audio and visual avenues are gaining popularity, I suspect these NDE's will do more to shatter materialism than any amount of books (and I love books)!

One recent NDE example - about 30 minutes - of a greedy, harsh, worldly doctor getting turned around by his experience. He now lives a kinder, gentler, spiritual life, helping others with depression etc.; 'soul diseases' he calls them.

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25


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