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Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby justin.hudgins » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:48 pm

Hi, all.

I saw that Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche will be giving a retreat titled "Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters" in Crestone, CO, in late September. I live in Colorado and was thinking of attending but I'm entirely unfamiliar with this and was just curious about the background, what sort of teaching this might be, what transmissions (if any) are given, etc.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!


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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby Bhusuku » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:24 pm

Probably you have seen this page already, but there's also a book titled "Masters of the Zhang Zhung Nyengyud" available, which includes translations and commentaries from Lopön Tenzin Namdak about the pith realizations of the ZZNG masters. You can find the translations of the root verses here as well:
http://gyalshen.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... asters.pdf
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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby kalden yungdrung » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:02 pm

justin.hudgins wrote:Hi, all.

I saw that Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche will be giving a retreat titled "Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters" in Crestone, CO, in late September. I live in Colorado and was thinking of attending but I'm entirely unfamiliar with this and was just curious about the background, what sort of teaching this might be, what transmissions (if any) are given, etc.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!


Justin



Tashi delek,

Yes it is like Bhusuku did before mentioned.
http://www.namsebangdzo.com/Masters_of_ ... /17237.htm


We have the book in our foundation's library and it is a very precious book for all Bonpos.

It deals with the Bon Dzogchen Buddhas as well the Rigdzins of ZZNG (Nyengyud) and ZZKY (Kagyu).
We CAN do Guru Yoga with each of the ZZ Dzogchen Rigdzins and as an aid are there the pictures (made by Lopon Lak, he is also a very talented Thanka painter).

The pictures serve as the visualisation practice and so the connection is there with that ZZ Master in the form of Guru Yoga. Then the realisation of that Master can be taken into consideration during meditation which descend in the form of Wisdoms blessings. Guru Yoga is here the core / essential.

All in all a must to have that book. :D

By the way TWR is a very closed disciple of Lopon Lak. :applause:


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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby Lhasa » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:58 pm

KY,
Would you explain more about Guru Yoga in Bon? How is it different from what ChNN teaches?
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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby kalden yungdrung » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:04 pm

Lhasa wrote:KY,
Would you explain more about Guru Yoga in Bon? How is it different from what ChNN teaches?



Tashi delek,

Well in Bon we have the self initialisation also practiced in Guru Rinpoches Guru Yoga etc.

I guess it is a general Dzogchen practice of the 3 Kayas done with the help of the blessings which come after the purification and Wisdom Blessings. We make use of A head, Om - Troat , Hung - Heart. The only difference would be the different syllables for the related chakras. colours are identical.

But i don't know ChNN's interpretation about Guru Yoga.......

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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby Lhasa » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:15 pm

kalden yungdrung wrote:
Lhasa wrote:KY,
Would you explain more about Guru Yoga in Bon? How is it different from what ChNN teaches?



Tashi delek,

Well in Bon we have the self initialisation also practiced in Guru Rinpoches Guru Yoga etc.

I guess it is a general Dzogchen practice of the 3 Kayas done with the help of the blessings which come after the purification and Wisdom Blessings. We make use of A head, Om - Troat , Hung - Heart. The only difference would be the different syllables for the related chakras. colours are identical.

But i don't know ChNN's interpretation about Guru Yoga.......

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Is the exact Bon practice secret? I'd like to hear all you can tell me about Bon Guru Yoga.
Thank you.
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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby kalden yungdrung » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:20 pm

Lhasa wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:
Lhasa wrote:KY,
Would you explain more about Guru Yoga in Bon? How is it different from what ChNN teaches?



Tashi delek,

Well in Bon we have the self initialisation also practiced in Guru Rinpoches Guru Yoga etc.

I guess it is a general Dzogchen practice of the 3 Kayas done with the help of the blessings which come after the purification and Wisdom Blessings. We make use of A head, Om - Troat , Hung - Heart. The only difference would be the different syllables for the related chakras. colours are identical.

But i don't know ChNN's interpretation about Guru Yoga.......

Mutsog marro
KY


Is the exact Bon practice secret? I'd like to hear all you can tell me about Bon Guru Yoga.
Thank you.



Tashi delek,

Did told you everything i know about Bon Guru Yoga. The rest you can read in the
http://www.namsebangdzo.com/Masters_of_ ... /17237.htm

Hope this helps

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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby Lhasa » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:37 pm

OK, thank you. :namaste:
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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby Bhusuku » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:51 pm

Lhasa wrote:Would you explain more about Guru Yoga in Bon?

You can find an explanation of the Guruyoga of Tapihritsa in Reynolds "The oral tradition from Zhang-Zhung".
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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby Lhasa » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:04 pm

Bhusuku wrote:
Lhasa wrote:Would you explain more about Guru Yoga in Bon?

You can find an explanation of the Guruyoga of Tapihritsa in Reynolds "The oral tradition from Zhang-Zhung".


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Re: Pith Realizations of the ZZNG Masters

Postby justin.hudgins » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:00 pm

Thank you everyone for your responses! Very helpful, I really appreciate it. :thanks:


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