An Apology

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An Apology

Postby PeterB » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:33 am

First of all I had better start by saying what I am not apologising for.
In a recent thread started by me my intention was to show that what one eats should not be a primary consideration in any self evaluation in terms of Dhamma practice.
(Although how much and when might be worth reflecting on )
I was keen to balance the view that Buddhism needs a plus.
Buddhism plus anything in fact represents a potential for dilution.
So agree with that or not, that is what I meant to convey.

What I actually did was to create annoyance and disruption.
It truly did not cross my mind that what I posted would have that effect.

So my sincere apologies to those who I offended , and to the mods who had to spend time dealing with the fallout from that.
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Re: An Apology

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:45 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: An Apology

Postby PeterB » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:56 am

:anjali:
metta back.


I like your neat summation of the 4NT's . :twothumbsup:

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Re: An Apology

Postby cooran » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:26 am

Hello Peter,

I learned a long time ago on discussion lists that very small cultural differences , like those found say between Brits and Aussies, or Aussies and Americans, can cause misunderstandings to arise – with both ‘sides’ thinking it is perfectly obvious what the ‘true’ meaning of a poster is. E.g. some nationalities don’t understand the use of irony – and only see it as sarcasm.

Thank you for apologising to any members who were offended – I personally enjoy your posts and understand what you are saying, or, if not, I ask questions to clarify my perceptions.

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Re: An Apology

Postby PeterB » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:46 am

Good to see you back Chris.
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Re: An Apology

Postby Ben » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:49 am

Thanks Peter.

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Re: An Apology

Postby Jhana4 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:07 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: An Apology

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:23 am

Hi, Peter.

Thanks for the apology. It is of course accepted in the manner in which it was given.

What I have been learning slowly but surely is that attachment to views and perspectives are most importantly attachments. Attachments cause dukkha;....and everyone knows the rest. If not, see The Four Noble Truths as others in this thread have already said.

Chris, thanks for the explanation as to why America, Australia, and Great Britain are three countries separated by a common language. :clap:

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Re: An Apology

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 pm

What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: An Apology

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:25 pm

Maybe the Buddha would approve of your sentiment,
Image
seeing the problem is the first step in finding the solution to not doing it again.

I am certainly not saying your thread or intention with it was wrong, but you obviously see the issue that arises.

Personally I like seeing these sentiments, particularly out of the blue, it is almost refreshing!


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: An Apology

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:40 pm

I think perhaps note should be taken of the date of this post...it was in March 2011.
Peter no longer considers himself to be a Buddhist and in fact was baptised into the Eastern Orthodox Church towards the end of last year after more than forty years as a Buddhist.
Just for information.



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Re: An Apology

Postby Reductor » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:08 pm

I did NOT see that coming.

All the best to him then. Unless you are yanking our chain?

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Re: An Apology

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:11 pm

Peter was baptised into the Orthodox church last november.
I believe he took his leave of the mods at that time, with mutual goodwill.

Actually quite a lot of people did see it coming.


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Re: An Apology

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:21 pm

Oh yeah, I didn't look at the date before I posted! thought it was interesting seeing his name :)


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: An Apology

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:51 pm

The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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Re: An Apology

Postby Vepacitta » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:03 pm

I for one will not miss Peter. His posts were routinely nasty and rude - clearly wanting to provoke a fight. Let him go into the tumbrils. And for anyone who will say, that I am being "mean" read some of this person's posts and you'll find that I'm being very very restrained.


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(been a lot of crap on this mountain lately)

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