I think the quote from Tulku Urgyen is very relevant to the discussion. While it may be true that some practitioners can simply rest in the natural state, badaboom badabing, for most of us, there is a certain kind of effort involved. I'm not talking about gutting it out or wrestling the view to the ground and beating it into submission. In my experience, it is more of a gradual process of familiarization with the so-called natural state.
When I started practicing a long time ago, I used to read threads like this and find them inspiring. And I'd truck along for awhile until I hit a huge obstacle, and then all that inspiration would go up in a cloud of smoke. My wish for those who read this thread is that they take the useful inspiration here and not be discouraged if this is not the way practice is for them from the beginning or all the time. This is not any kind of criticism of you, Oushi; it's what keeps flashing through my mind as I read this thread... I'm sure you know that it's very easy to say these things and an entirely different matter to realize them.