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Leg pain

Postby Music » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:18 pm

Is it okay to switch posture after a few minutes in case there is pain? Or must we maintain the same posture for the entire duration of meditation? I try to do 20 minutes but my legs can only endure 15 minutes, so the remaining 5 minutes I just stretch my legs instead of maintaining the cross legged posture.

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Re: Leg pain

Postby oushi » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:32 pm

The question is, what do you want to achieve? If you want to achieve sitting for 20 minutes, then you need to sit in pain, or find a different posture. I simply have no idea why would you force yourself to sit in pain.
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Re: Leg pain

Postby Music » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:05 am

I am assuming that doing meditation for a longer duration is better than short bursts?

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Re: Leg pain

Postby catmoon » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:11 am

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Re: Leg pain

Postby Indrajala » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:45 am

You don't have to sit cross-legged.

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Forcing yourself to sit through leg pain is unnecessary. The point is to tame the mind, not reconfigure your legs.
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Re: Leg pain

Postby bunny » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:12 am

I do not sit cross-legged during meditation, I had surgery on my left knee several years ago and my knee still gives me "jip" now and again.

To sit cross-legged would be a disaster for me. Sometimes I do it without thinking, then I wonder why left knee is so painful until I look down and realise what I have done.

There is no rule that says that you have to sit cross-legged :) (not that I am aware of)

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Re: Leg pain

Postby lowlydog » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:21 am

Pain is one of the best and quickest teachers.

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Re: Leg pain

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:11 am

Use common sense. The point of dharma is to end suffering, not cause more suffering!
If your limbs are healthy and have not had any kind of damage or surgical treatments that need special consideration,
then, if possible you should gradually let your legs and back become used to sitting in the proper posture.
But if this is not an option, don't worry. It is the mind that has to meditate.
Most people do not realize that our bones are not unchanging sticks, but are constantly redesigning themselves, constantly reshaping and rebuilding.
I know a person who has had knee surgery in both legs and sits cross-legged, but with pillows supporting the knees.

But there is no need to hurry. Hurrying is what usually causes problems.
Along these same thoughts, if you are used to sitting on a cushion but would like to be able to sit directly on a (padded) floor, but it causes pain, here is a simple trick to help you. Sit on a stack of newspaper that is the height of the cushion you now use. You can fold a towel and place it on the top so it is a little softer to sit on. Every day, remove one or two pages. Over time, your back, hips and legs will get used to the lower angle, and eventually you will be able to sit directly on the ground or floor.
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Re: Leg pain

Postby DGA » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:16 am

There are many factors here. It could be that your posture could use some correction, or that the muscles & connective tissues in your hips are tight (which puts a strain in the leg muscles & knees). It's not really the kind of question that you can answer adequately on an internet forum, unfortunately.

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Re: Leg pain

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Re: Leg pain

Postby lowlydog » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:26 pm

I think the key is to begin in a comfortable position, and then observe whatever arises(pain, itching, pleasantness, etc....) and also see its impermanent nature. Practicing arising and passing away with equaminity is key to gaining insight.

We need to be careful that we do not begin practicing avoidance to the unpleasant, this can lead to craving only the pleasant, and this is a trap!

We need to understand that posture pain is common when practicing seated meditation, and we need to be kind to ourselves, but not to run from pain when it arises.

Take a moment and really look at it, then decide how to proceed with a balanced mind.

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Re: Leg pain

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Re: Leg pain

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