Energetics of Thought

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Energetics of Thought

Postby underthetree » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:42 am

Something I've found, both in meditation and in everday life is that, when a thought arises and I look at it and let it dissolve, I always experience a physical sensation, either in the area of my heart, my solar plexus or occasionally roughly in my sinuses. The same applies for emotion. This is a sort of faint physical tremor or thrill accompanied by a sensation which is neither pleasant or unpleasant. From my limited understanding of Tibetan esoteric physiology I'm guessing that this is a function or manifestation of lung, but I'd like to know more.
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Re: Energetics of Thought

Postby Jeff » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:26 pm

Great point and question. Try to trace it back and find the point where the energy is "created/introduced" at the prethought. That will help with the answer to your question.

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Re: Energetics of Thought

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:13 pm

underthetree wrote:Something I've found, both in meditation and in everday life is that, when a thought arises and I look at it and let it dissolve, I always experience a physical sensation, either in the area of my heart, my solar plexus or occasionally roughly in my sinuses. The same applies for emotion. This is a sort of faint physical tremor or thrill accompanied by a sensation which is neither pleasant or unpleasant. From my limited understanding of Tibetan esoteric physiology I'm guessing that this is a function or manifestation of lung, but I'd like to know more.



Thoughts are rlung. When your lung does not move, thoughts do not arise.
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Re: Energetics of Thought

Postby Virgo » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:41 am

Malcolm wrote:
underthetree wrote:Something I've found, both in meditation and in everday life is that, when a thought arises and I look at it and let it dissolve, I always experience a physical sensation, either in the area of my heart, my solar plexus or occasionally roughly in my sinuses. The same applies for emotion. This is a sort of faint physical tremor or thrill accompanied by a sensation which is neither pleasant or unpleasant. From my limited understanding of Tibetan esoteric physiology I'm guessing that this is a function or manifestation of lung, but I'd like to know more.



Thoughts are rlung. When your lung does not move, thoughts do not arise.

That's what I'm talking about.

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Re: Energetics of Thought

Postby Andrew108 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:12 am

Thoughts are rlung and rlung is?
The Blessed One said:

"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.
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Re: Energetics of Thought

Postby underthetree » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 pm

Thank you, Malcolm.

So why does the sensation arise at the dissolving of the thought?

Thoughts are rlung. When your lung does not move, thoughts do not arise.


Interesting. So why does lung seem to move during shamatha? Or is that some other part of the subtle anatomy?
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Re: Energetics of Thought

Postby Wesley1982 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:43 pm

-Energeia- is probably the Christian term used to describe the energy of a positive spirit
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