Teach & tell me about buddha mind

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Teach & tell me about buddha mind

Postby Wesley1982 » Wed May 02, 2012 2:10 am

I'm interesting in learning about the mind in Buddhism. What do Buddhists say about it? (the human mind) . . .

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Postby Wesley1982 » Wed May 02, 2012 4:45 am

And the mind connects to the brain which connects to the body. Am I missing something here? or does the dharma of religious practice train the mind leading to awakening/enlightenment? . .

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Re: Teach & tell me about buddha mind

Postby White Lotus » Wed May 02, 2012 3:09 pm

when you begin, ordinary mind is separate from external objects. it is your thought, feelings, neurological wokings... all the western notions explain it quite well. however, in buddhism this separation from other things is removed. your own mind is seen as all things.

to start with, we have an ego. this separates us from the world around us, when through Buddhist practice the ego is removed the little mind becomes a big mind. infact, all things. the separation is removed.

in Buddhism, it is usually the 'one' (big) mind or dharmakaya that is referred to. in zen there is little emphasis on the western notions of neurology etc. though in zen there is reference to psychology of enlightenment.

so, when studying zen; most of the time it referrs to the big mind.

there is fundamentally no difference between ordinary mind and buddha mind. they are the same in every respect; except in that a buddha can see things that ordinary people cant, such as emptiness (mind).
when you see all things as this one mind you see that this one mind is emptiness.

in Christianity (you may be a christian), it is said that all things are created out of nothing... i guess mind is showing us that all things are empty. they are nothing and yet that this nothing is everything.

you know, we are speculating here and speculation arises as soon as there are words. you must see this mind for yourself, then you will know that Buddhism is an accurate understanding and experience.

buddhism can be seen as the supreme science or art of reality, without attachement to the word reality. words tend to fail us in our understanding. anyone can be a buddhist if he is persuing the art of reality and personal development. in Hong Kong, i seem to remember that there was a Buddhist - Christian college designed like a temple; on a hill in the new territories. Hui Feng may know of it; one of my friends used to service their sewage treatment facility and took me to see it. quite impressive. im not sure what their teaching was like, but i know of quite a few eminent buddhists who have respected Christianity, or being christians.

so, no hang ups.

i hope Wesley that you will find the joy and satisfaction from your study of Buddhism that i have found. stick with it and you are bound to see fruit of your practice.

best wishes, Tom.
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Re: Teach & tell me about buddha mind

Postby Wesley1982 » Wed May 02, 2012 6:29 pm

So . . :reading: There's not much the mind does other than interpret reality.

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Postby LastLegend » Wed May 02, 2012 10:26 pm

The mind when deluded we suffer when enlightened we liberated.
NAMO AMITABHA
NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Postby Wesley1982 » Thu May 03, 2012 1:43 am

another thing, is the Eastern Buddhist attitude of the mind fundamentally different than that of the West? . .

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NAMO AMITABHA
NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Postby Wesley1982 » Fri May 04, 2012 1:16 am

And this understanding of -buddha mind- is one of the dharmas that leads us on the Path to Liberation? . .

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Re: Teach & tell me about buddha mind

Postby White Lotus » Fri May 04, 2012 4:32 pm

it is often said that mind is emptiness. the christian mystic, St John of the cross writes...''On the path toward God - nada, nada, nada, nada, nada (nothing) and on the mountain of God is written 'on this mountain is nothing'. he is famous for his ''dark night of the soul''.

meister ekhart, the dominican monk and theologian says that God is ''absolute nothingness''; that all existence, which God is, is fundamentally absolute nothingness.

Keiji Nishitani of the kyoto school and a great buddhist philosopher talks in his book ''religion and nothingness'' about the influence of emptiness in western thought and says that even in the nihilism of some western philosopy is found a hankering after the positive realisation of nothingness/emptiness in buddhism.

the higher self of advaita vedanta is said to be seen as the void within. And so we know that experience of emptiness is a universal experience.

i would however say that this ''emptiness'' is not emptiness, nor is it nothingness, nor anythingness. emptiness is merely a label. emptiness is pregnanat with energy and potentiality and so to use this label can be misleading.

hope this is helpful.

best wishes, Tom.
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