The time of your death was determined before u were born.

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The time of your death was determined before u were born.

Postby AlexanderS » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:58 am

I heard this phrase in association with a buddhist seminar on peaceful dying.

However wouldn't a predetermined time of death more or less negate freedom?

Is it in line with buddhist teachings?
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Re: The time of your death was determined before u were born.

Postby Indrajala » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:22 pm

Buddhism is not determinism.

It is said that karma from past lives affects the lifespan of an individual (the term is āyuḥsaṃskāra in Sanskrit), but their own actions during life can either extend or shorten it.

Confessing all past evil deeds and cultivating virtue is said to increase one's longevity.

However, nothing is pre-determined.
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Re: The time of your death was determined before u were born.

Postby maybay » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:58 pm

The time of whose death is determined before they are born? The choice is in choosing who you are. We make this choice continually through life. If we make the same choices then it is more predictable. If we choose differently then less. But you have to ask: Who is doing the determining? To sentient beings there is the appearance of freedom. What does the Buddha say?
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Re: The time of your death was determined before u were born.

Postby lotwell » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:52 am

Yes, death is certain however the time of death is uncertain. Life is very precious and our time is very short.
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Re: The time of your death was determined before u were born.

Postby Konchog1 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:15 am

AlexanderS wrote:I heard this phrase in association with a buddhist seminar on peaceful dying.

However wouldn't a predetermined time of death more or less negate freedom?

Is it in line with buddhist teachings?
Yes and no I think. We born with a certain lifespans yes but it can be so easily affected it doesn't matter what it is.
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Re: The time of your death was determined before u were born.

Postby Lhug-Pa » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:29 pm

The Alexander Berzin website doesn't seem to be up right now, but if you can access the first two links found on this Google search...:


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