Mr. G wrote: Namdrol wrote:
gregkavarnos wrote:I think the mods have dealt quite well with a variety of individuals that come here merely to stir trouble.
I doubt that Jax has come here for the purpose of causing trouble. I dont agree with how he discusses the teachings and his point of view seems perennialist -- he does not strike me as a "troublemaker" per se.
Namdrol, are you saying you think he should not have been banned? If so, do you have suggestions on how to best objectively qualify in the future whether a member should, or should not be banned? To me, his claims of accomplishing the result of gtum mo, lack of respect towards his own Dzogchen teachers, repeatedly openly discussing the specifics of inner practices involving channels, gazing, etc., and bizarre statements blending advaita, Dzogchen an Gnostic teachings had me label him as a disruptive troll. Was I too quick to act? Is there better criteria to be used in the future?
I am not going to second guess the admin's decisions.
However, what he said regarding Gnostic blah blah blah has been said by John Reynolds.
As far as lack of respect of his teachers goes, that is his problem, not ours.
As far as talking about the specifics of thögal openly, this is not the correct way -- but it was corrected.
We have many people who say strange things here. It is to be expected. I think the main thing that bothered people was that he does not care about lineage and that he has some odd ideas about transmission.
So, whether you choose to readmit him or not, I think that most of what you outline above is not really something we ought to ban people for.
Most of us here understand the right way. We also do not want a repeat of E-Sangha.