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Blue Tārā

Postby Distorted » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:23 am

Does anyone know why Blue Tārā is associated with transmutation of anger? Any input or if I can be pointed in a direction in which I can read on this I would greatly appreciate.

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"Sona, before you became a monk you were a musician". Sona said that was true. So the Buddha said, "As a musician which string of the lute produces a pleasant and harmonious sound. The over-tight string?" "No," said Sona, "The over-tight string produces an unpleasant sound and is moreover likely to break at any moment." "The string that is too loose?" Again, "No, the string that is too loose does not produce a tuneful sound. The string that produces a tuneful sound is the string that is not too tight and not too loose."
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Konchog1 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:19 am

She's from the Vajra family. Blue means that she's wrathful which involves turning anger into wisdom, forcefully dealing with obstacles and so forth.

http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/deity ... index.html
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Distorted » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:42 am

Konchog1 wrote:She's from the Vajra family. Blue means that she's wrathful which involves turning anger into wisdom, forcefully dealing with obstacles and so forth.

http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/deity ... index.html


Thank You Konchog1, do you know of a good book I can read more of Tara?
"Sona, before you became a monk you were a musician". Sona said that was true. So the Buddha said, "As a musician which string of the lute produces a pleasant and harmonious sound. The over-tight string?" "No," said Sona, "The over-tight string produces an unpleasant sound and is moreover likely to break at any moment." "The string that is too loose?" Again, "No, the string that is too loose does not produce a tuneful sound. The string that produces a tuneful sound is the string that is not too tight and not too loose."
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Adamantine » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:04 am

Distorted wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:She's from the Vajra family. Blue means that she's wrathful which involves turning anger into wisdom, forcefully dealing with obstacles and so forth.

http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/deity ... index.html


Thank You Konchog1, do you know of a good book I can read more of Tara?


I have not read this book but it looks great! Image

http://www.amazon.com/Praise-Tara-Songs-Saviouress/dp/0861711092/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326438075&sr=1-1
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Konchog1 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:15 am

Distorted wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:She's from the Vajra family. Blue means that she's wrathful which involves turning anger into wisdom, forcefully dealing with obstacles and so forth.

http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/deity ... index.html


Thank You Konchog1, do you know of a good book I can read more of Tara?
The internet has a lot of good info

http://v7.tsemtulku.com/resources/buddhas/green-tara/
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Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Adamantine » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:28 am

Konchog1 wrote:
Distorted wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:She's from the Vajra family. Blue means that she's wrathful which involves turning anger into wisdom, forcefully dealing with obstacles and so forth.

http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/deity ... index.html


Thank You Konchog1, do you know of a good book I can read more of Tara?
The internet has a lot of good info

http://v7.tsemtulku.com/resources/buddhas/green-tara/


I think the book would be best but if anyone's just browsing websites I think this one is more informativehttp://www.khandro.net/deities_tara1.htm
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby dakini_boi » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:22 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Taras-Enlightened ... 295&sr=8-1

this book is supposed to be great, a commentary on the praises to 21 Taras, some of which are blue.


try this site too: www.21taras.net
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Beatzen » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:15 am

I had a weird experience with red Tara one time that I took LSD. The weird thing is that i had never heard of Tara before the trip, and that's what she introduced herself as. I take it with a grain of salt. I saw yaweh on a throne like an hour before hand. Same acid trip.

The strange thing is that red Tara keeps popping into my life. A gadgud gompa devotee of Tara visited me in the hospital a few years after that LSD trip. That's when I learned she was real. I'm confused because I don't even practice tibetan Buddhism.
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby AdmiralJim » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:35 am

A gadgud gompa devotee of Tara visited me in the hospital a few years after that LSD trip. That's when I learned she was real. I'm confused because I don't even practice tibetan Buddhism.

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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Adamantine » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:36 am

Beatzen wrote:I had a weird experience with red Tara one time that I took LSD. The weird thing is that i had never heard of Tara before the trip, and that's what she introduced herself as. I take it with a grain of salt. I saw yaweh on a throne like an hour before hand. Same acid trip.

The strange thing is that red Tara keeps popping into my life. A gadgud gompa devotee of Tara visited me in the hospital a few years after that LSD trip. That's when I learned she was real. I'm confused because I don't even practice tibetan Buddhism.




Sounds like you have a real karmic link with that deity. You may not practice on deities now but you probably have practiced on Tara in the past and that karmic connection will probably bear further fruit in this life...

You are actually very close to this Chagdud Center in Cottage Grove, Oregon
where they house this statue of Red Tara:

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Coincidence? How many Red Tara statues do you think there are in North America?

Yeah you may have seen Yaweh earlier in your acid trip but that is an imprint you already had growing up in a Judeao-Christian culture.. and yet you say you never heard of Tara before the trip so that is clearly a more remarkable thing to contemplate.

I would stick with your Zen practice, but at the same time go hang with the Chagdud Gompa folks and chill with the Red Tara statue. You have a link and that is no accident.
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Zenshin 善心 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:34 am

anyone read both this one...

dakini_boi wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Taras-Enlightened-Activity-Commentary-Twenty-one/dp/1559392878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326482295&sr=8-1


...and this one? -

http://www.amazon.com/How-Free-Your-Mind-ebook/dp/B001W0Z9ZI/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1326605143&sr=1-2

given a choice, and as i'm limited to kindle at the moment, which would you choose?
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Adamantine » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:23 am

dumbbombu wrote:anyone read both this one...

dakini_boi wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Taras-Enlightened-Activity-Commentary-Twenty-one/dp/1559392878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326482295&sr=8-1


...and this one? -

http://www.amazon.com/How-Free-Your-Mind-ebook/dp/B001W0Z9ZI/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1326605143&sr=1-2

given a choice, and as i'm limited to kindle at the moment, which would you choose?


I have not read either, but being familiar with the Khenpo Brother's writings and browsing both with the amazon look-inside-function I would definitely choose
Tara's Enlightened Activity: Commentary on The Praises to the Twenty-one Taras by
Khenchen Palden Sherab
Khenpo Tsewang Dongyal

That's because their writing is both profound and lucid, easy to understand, and it seems they actually guide you through the practice / visualization itself along with advice for setting up the shrine, etc.. the essential practical things you need and direct from realized masters. . .you can't go wrong.
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Zenshin 善心 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:50 am

cheers Adamantine, reciting the 21 Praises was my very first Dharma practice, before i settled into Jodo Shinshu and found a samgha and master... so i still have a bit of a soft spot in my heart for her :smile:
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Thus for the sake of all beings Buddhas and Bodhisattvas become sometimes their parents, sometimes their wives and children, sometimes their kinsmen, sometimes their servants, sometimes their friends, sometimes their enemies, sometimes reveal themselves as devas or in some other forms.


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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby robaire » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:12 am

Beatzen wrote: I saw yaweh on a throne like an hour before hand. Same acid trip.


apparently you have not been alone on that trip. lol...
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby Distorted » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:06 am

Thank you for the replies! :cheers:
"Sona, before you became a monk you were a musician". Sona said that was true. So the Buddha said, "As a musician which string of the lute produces a pleasant and harmonious sound. The over-tight string?" "No," said Sona, "The over-tight string produces an unpleasant sound and is moreover likely to break at any moment." "The string that is too loose?" Again, "No, the string that is too loose does not produce a tuneful sound. The string that produces a tuneful sound is the string that is not too tight and not too loose."
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby daelm » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:05 am

robaire wrote:
Beatzen wrote: I saw yaweh on a throne like an hour before hand. Same acid trip.


apparently you have not been alone on that trip...



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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby asunthatneversets » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:37 pm

Ekajaṭī is also known as Blue Tārā

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekajati
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Re: Blue Tārā

Postby kirtu » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:35 pm

Adamantine wrote:
I have not read either, but being familiar with the Khenpo Brother's writings and browsing both with the amazon look-inside-function I would definitely choose
Tara's Enlightened Activity: Commentary on The Praises to the Twenty-one Taras by
Khenchen Palden Sherab
Khenpo Tsewang Dongyal

That's because their writing is both profound and lucid, easy to understand, and it seems they actually guide you through the practice / visualization itself along with advice for setting up the shrine, etc.. the essential practical things you need and direct from realized masters. . .you can't go wrong.


Khenpo Brothers: :twothumbsup:

There are different forms of the 21 Tara's (at least three). Atisha's 21 Tara's also has at least one blue Tara but these notes are in storage right now. It might be worthwhile to take a look at blue Tara;s across lineages.

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