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Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby rahula80 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:53 pm

Hi,

Any scientific support for this?

Brahmajala Sutta:

"There comes a time, bhikkhus, when after the lapse of a long period this world contracts......But sooner or later, bhikkhus, after the lapse of a long period, there comes a time when this world begins to expand once again....."

I am thinking of Paul Steinhardt's Endless Universe.

What do you think?

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby Hanzze » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:03 pm

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby Hanzze » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:04 pm

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:35 pm

Yes, sounds like science to me. Just like a supernova, stars and planet are formed and perish and then reconstitute. The Buddha got this one pretty exact to the science, imo.

And even the other ones, too, although not exactly according to the science (in regard to earthquakes, etc.) but at least he explained it by referring to natural and scientific causes, mostly.
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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby Individual » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:02 pm

I believe this isn't strictly Buddhist, btw. Perhaps the Hindus appropriated the idea, but I have heard of a Hindu cosmology which describes the universe as expanding and contracting with Brahma's breath

I found it interesting when I read it, though, yeah.
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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby Sherab » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:47 pm

Science's theory of the universe is still work-in-progress:

http://www.physorg.com/news199591806.html

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby d.sullivan » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:23 am

Recent observations of the cosmic backround radiation indicate that the universe is not going to have a "Big Crunch," but will instead expand infinitely. In fact, astronomers are pretty certain that not only are we expanding indefinitely, but that the rate at which the universe is expanding is increasing, which has astronomers pretty flustered, 'cause they can't figure out why that would be the case.
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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:34 am

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby rahula80 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:48 am

Hi,

> Recent observations of the cosmic backround radiation indicate that the universe is not going to have a "Big Crunch,"....<

Not really. According to Martin Bojowald, the previous universe whose collapse appears to have given birth to the one we live in today.
http://www.science.psu.edu/news-and-eve ... 6-2007.htm

What happened before the Big Bang?
Martin Bojowald
Nature Physics 3, 523 - 525 (2007)

Bojowald's research is echoed by Alejandro Corichi & Parampreet Singh
http://www.physorg.com/news126955971.html

Quantum bounce and cosmic recall
Authors: Alejandro Corichi, Parampreet Singh
Phys.Rev.Lett.100:161302 (2008)
http://arxiv.org/abs/0710.4543


See also:
Big Bounce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby d.sullivan » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:36 pm

Every blade in the field,
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Lays down its life in its season,
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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

Postby d.sullivan » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:53 pm

Every blade in the field,
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Re: Science-Expansion/Contraction of the Universe?

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