paramhansa yogananda

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:37 pm

smcj wrote:I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.



Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:49 pm

My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic.

Im pretty sure every lay person of tibetan ethnicity who has these empowerments is practicing karmamudra.

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:52 pm

theanarchist wrote:
smcj wrote:I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.



Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.


what rubbish

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:56 pm

I will take notice and withdraw considering your aversion to Gelug views :anjali:

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:58 pm

ConradTree wrote:My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic.

Im pretty sure every lay person of tibetan ethnicity who has these empowerments is practicing karmamudra.



:rolling:



Probably not all that many people of Tibetan ethnicity have the empowerment to do so.

By the way, if you get the transmission to do the inner practices of a sadhana, which are NOT given randomly like the "normal" empoweremnts by the way, do you get them all at once or does the teacher only give them in portions according to what you have to practice next?

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:00 pm

ConradTree wrote:My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic..



Not Gelug nonsense. I'm as Nyingma as it can get and I agree with what was said.

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:01 pm

ConradTree wrote:My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic.
Which lineage do you practice in exactly?
Im pretty sure every lay person of tibetan ethnicity who has these empowerments is practicing karmamudra.
Even if they were, given your attitude, it is highly unlikely that they would want to discuss or teach it to you.

Reign in your aggression and judgmental attitude and you may find people more accommodating and helpful.
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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:04 pm

JKhedrup wrote:I will take notice and withdraw considering your aversion to Gelug views :anjali:



Erm, please stay. You can probably answer on the basis of scriptures what happens and why exactly if consort practice goes wrong.

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby smcj » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:11 pm

theanarchist wrote:
smcj wrote:I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.

Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.

And why do you think that is? No reason at all? Have you asked one why?
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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:20 pm

smcj wrote:
theanarchist wrote:
smcj wrote:I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.

Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.

And why do you think that is? No reason at all? Have you asked one why?



I asked a long term western retreatant who has done inner practices (apparently tummo and stuff) what can go wrong. He said you risk your mental health if you do those practices without being qualified because your energy system is going to be messed up, which is decidedly unhealthy for the mind.

I only know one Tibetan who I suspect might be dong consort practice with his wife (he is a high lama) and I would rather NOT ask about it because stupid (inappropriate) questions only get stupid answers with him.

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:44 pm

Malcolm wrote:In general, the Sakyapa POV is that monks use a jñānamudra....



Yes exactly.

Monks use jnanamudra or tummo (what you called Vajrayogini)

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Re: paramhansa yogananda

Postby ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:45 pm

New karmamudra thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=16213


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