Who is the Buddha?

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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Roneen » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:30 pm

I've always found old Zen instruction to be confrontational at times. Was this tendency just mean-spirited instruction or was it intellectually devisal? :?:
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Osho » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:29 pm

Might that have been a cultural thing reflecting Japanese society and mores of the day?
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Roneen » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:00 pm

The world is a stable filled with three-legged donkeys.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Osho » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:01 pm

Excellent metaphor.
If the stable is truly filled then those three legged donkeys can support one another.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Roneen » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:02 pm

The bamboo grove out in back.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby dude » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:50 am

Osho wrote:Might that have been a cultural thing reflecting Japanese society and mores of the day?


Of course. It also reflects the fact that the various sects have long competed with and debated each other. As they should.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Aemilius » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:18 am

Osho wrote:"Why would it not be you?"

Cos it's 'poo'.

Hope that helps.

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Your head is not You, because it is a "head", right?
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Osho » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:40 pm

None of it is 'us'.
Who is it posing 'head' questions?
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Aemilius » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:51 am

A person is designated based on the aggregates. Feces is part of the form aggregate. It is enumerated in the 32 'impurities' of the body. A person or a buddha can be designated, or inferred, from a pile of feces. This kind of reductio is common place in arhaeology.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Roneen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:51 pm

Two dried shit-sticks are the same as one.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Gwenn Dana » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:02 pm

One previous is not another.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby kirtu » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:40 am

Kirt's Tibetan Translation Notes

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Duncano » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:22 pm

Love reading all of those different views and comments,but i need to keep it all plain and straight forward.He was a man who found enlightenment and left a path for us to follow,should we choose to.That's good enough for me.Though i do have the sense during Meditation of the Buddha breathing through me !
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Aemilius » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:53 am

John F. Fisher has written an analysis about the koans in the Gateless Barrier or Mumonkan. Dried shitstick, or Dirt cleaner, is koan number 21. According to Fisher it belongs to the class of koans that express one party's enlightenment.

http://www.thezensite.com/ZenTeachings/KoanStudies/Analyses_of_the_koans.html
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby odysseus » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:19 pm

kresh wrote:Who is the Buddha?


Buddha is the boss of the Buddhists. :namaste:
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Roneen » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:45 pm

Who is the Buddha?



The eye does not go thither, nor speech, nor mind. We do not know, we do not understand, how any one can teach it? - Talavakâra Upn.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Asbestos Buddha » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:16 pm

kresh wrote:alright so I checked out a book on Buddhist parables and riddles and it's a great book but there is one part that I just am so confused about... here it is:

Who is the Buddha? What is the Buddha? Here are some of the answers given by various masters to this question:
Something of clay, with a gold-leaf
The one there in the hall.
He isn't Buddha.
The mountains are traveling over the sea.
Look at that three-legged donkey.
Dry shit
The mouth is the gateway of woe.
The best artist doesn't know how to paint him.
The bamboo grove out in back.

Dry shit

I meditated on this a bit and got nowhere.... Any ideas?
I can understand the meaning in all but Dry shit
I am so confused


Dried shit. Who walks around with useless crap? Move on here.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Aemilius » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:42 am

Who is the Buddha?
A good answer is in the Lotus Sutra, or Saddharma Pundarika, there the Buddha reveals Himself to be the Dharmakaya, the eternal Body of Truth.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Asbestos Buddha » Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:59 pm

Who is this and what is that?
Your cup runs over with concept; Separating this from
That. "This is Buddha this is not".
If I punched you in the face where is your Buddha nature now?
I do the same thing everyday.
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Re: Who is the Buddha?

Postby Roneen » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:46 pm

They are like donkeys deciding which patch of grass to eat! :rolling:
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