Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

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Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Thomas_Pynchon » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:49 pm

MP3 download links or utube videos or website would be appreciated. I have taken a lot from Peter brown's talks mainly because he predominately answers audience questions most of the time and so manages to present a great deal from multiple perspectives. Any personal recommendations please share, Thanks!

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Soar » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:10 am

The one that you will go and sit with and be with and not just read about.

Books are dead, an authentic teacher is something alive and responsive to you. They will be your bridge to the real dharma, which is something beyond mind, jhanas, and anything else you can define or read about. If you understand this then of course books can be useful too. But, this is really a danger, there are many teachers that are intellectually stimulating to read and watch as videos but this doesn't mean they can really be in nondual presence with you.

Sorry, just wanted to emphasise this point, but I am sure others will actually answer your question.
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Wayfarer » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:40 am

Have a look at Science and Non-Duality http://www.scienceandnonduality.com.

It is a conference that runs twice a year, once in California, the other in Europe. Links there to a lot of resources, teachers and sites.

Also

http://nondualityamerica.wordpress.com

Also Greg Goode's site. One of his associates and friends is Tomas Sander, have a look at http://theidproject.org/media/podcast/w ... mas-sander

As to who I learned the most from, I would have to say the first books I encountered, which included First and Last Freedom by Krishnamurti, The Teachings of Ramana Maharishi, and The Way of Zen by Alan Watts.
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Kunga Lhadzom » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:47 am

Soar wrote:Books are dead, an authentic teacher is something alive and responsive to you.


If it's is NONDUAL , then books & teacher are the same :)
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby rachmiel » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:06 am

My favorites are Rupert Spira and Jeff Foster. Both are bright, articulate, and seem genuinely to have gotten it.
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby greentara » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:37 am

The best teachers of non duality are Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta, they seem to have influenced all teachers since.... now there are only copycats and clones churned out.

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby lobster » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:18 am

Books are dead


Indeed. As are devices that we read from. We give them life and meaning. In a similar way attending a live 'talking book' is no better unless we find them useful and meaningful. :smile:

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:30 am

Why is everybody so down on duality?

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Lindama » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:26 am

depends on if you want a sense of your humanity in the end... the flavors are many

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby greentara » Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:05 am

Dzogchungpa, Remember....'the great way is not difficult for those who have no preferences' Words with opposites are values. We need them to communicate but they are all a part of the duality of the mind.

In addition.. Emptiness is form and form is Emptiness. In the ultimate non dual state which is not a 'state' There is no you and me. There is no this nor that. This is just the illusion of thinking.

What is the opposite of solid objects? What is the opposite of a flute or a fork ? In each of these cases, the opposite of existence is nonexistence. The final desperate battle of the mind is to deal with this duality.
Who are you? Are you your name, is it set in concrete? Are you your body? How strongly do we all identify with this body/mind?

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby smcj » Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:10 am

Doesn't "non-dual" usually mean that samsara and nirvana are the same thing when speaking in a buddhist context?
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby plwk » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:13 am

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
"By & large, Kaccayana, this world is supported by (takes as its object) a polarity, that of existence & non-existence.
But when one sees the origination of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'non-existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one.
When one sees the cessation of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one.
https://www2.hf.uio.no/polyglotta/index ... d=&level=2
The Dharma taught by Buddhas perfectly relies on two truths: the ambiguous truths of the world and the truths of the sublime meaning.
Those who do not understand the division into two truths, cannot understand the profound reality of the Buddha’s teaching.
Without relying on conventions, the sublime meaning cannot be taught.
Without understanding the sublime meaning, one will not attain nirvana.

Vimalakirti Sutra: Chapter 9: The Dharma-Door of Non-duality
Lankavatara Sutra: Chapter 2: Collection of All Dharmas: XXVII: On Emptiness (sunyata), No-birth, and Non-duality

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby seeker242 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:59 pm

First ones that come to mind are the old Chan ancestors like Seng-ts'an, Hui-neng, Huang-po, etc. But of course you can't ask them any questions because they are dead. The very best teacher of non-duality? Looking into your own mind, since that is how all these people found this nonduality stuff to begin with. :smile:
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Kaccāni » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:14 pm

Hello,

the videos of Mooji on youtube have been a great source lately. He's always straight to the point, without any fancies.

The speeches of Krishnamurti, Ramana Maharishi or Papaji are also a good help.
And of course: Years of contemplating over the first couple pages of the Tao Te King can also help :zwi:
I find Taoism a very good non-dualist source.

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Osho » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:49 pm

Tony Parsons for a contemporary take....
http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.netdn ... Parson.pdf
More about Mindfulness here
http://bemindful.co.uk/

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Malcolm » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:14 pm

The best teacher of non-duality is the Buddha. The rest are pale imitations.
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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby greentara » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:21 pm

A lot of these pop up teachers remind me of a saying of Alan Watts "anybody who tries to teach you enlightenment is like someone who picks your pocket and then tries to sell you your own watch"

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Re: Who are the best teachers of non-duality?

Postby Vajraprajnakhadga » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:17 am

smcj wrote:Doesn't "non-dual" usually mean that samsara and nirvana are the same thing when speaking in a buddhist context?


Yes. Buddhist non-dualism is completely summed up in the Heart Sutra.


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