gyougan wrote:Because psychedelics are illegal, most "decent" people decide to stay away from them. The fact that they are illegal is what alienates many users from society. What's even worse is that the illegality can cause a lot bad trips and paranoia.
I hung out with a group of pretty much total anarchists, and have for most of my life associated with some people that aren't considered normal. Dudes would pretty much do or try anything, it wasn't the illegality that messed them up at all, it was the repeated tripping and trying to 'interpret' experiences they were chasing that messed them up. one friend ended up always thinking people were psychically invading him, so he had to wave stuff around his head to keep them at bay. Maybe they were, but either way..he was worse off, not better. I don't think it was permanent, he seems quite happy today, but obviously at the time it was not good.
Smoking pot laced with PCP in my teens luckily for me, made me think that whatever "good" effects might come of serious drug use, I didn't wanna take the risk. if you haven't ever done PCP, trust me..a bad trip is scarier than shit, i wasn't right in the head for about a year, and it brought panic attacks into my life permanently. I don't think everyone has this experience, but obviously, talk to anyone who is honest from drug culture, or that has counseled them, and you see most people do not have a good reaction at all. The trouble is everyone thinks THEY are the exceptional one that can handle it, they are usually wrong IME. I get it, and maybe if you have the right guidance and a teacher that can help you, the substances can be of use for some..the trouble is, everyone I have seen posting in the affirmative for these substances in this thread, and everyone i've seen ask about it on DW does not have such qualifications, such a teacher, or such an environment
. That being the case, it's pretty obvious that the rational thing is erring on the side of caution where permanently distorting one's mind (worse than it already is) is concerned.
I'm not an anti-drug ideologue, if you have the teacher, the inclination, the substance, and the stones, go for it. The arguments about the merits of the substances themselves though, fly in the face of reason as far as basic observation of the world is concerned.
Lots of drugs cause paranoia, without any reference to illegality, that's sort of a ridiculous way of viewing cause and effect of legality.. like saying the illegality of robbing people is what makes people paranoid while doing it lol...it doesn't change the act, substance, or whatever involve, whatever one's stance on legalization of drugs.
"Just as a lotus does not grow out of a well-levelled soil but from the mire, in the same way the awakening mind
is not born in the hearts of disciples in whom the moisture of attachment has dried up. It grows instead in the hearts of ordinary sentient beings who possess in full the fetters of bondage." -Se Chilbu Choki Gyaltsen