padma norbu wrote:On peyote and mushrooms, in particular, I had what appeared to be interactions with otherworldly beings and it seemed quite important at the time, but I can say very definitively all these years later that there was no benefit in any of it
Interesting. I never experienced anything that would look, or feel like an otherworldly being and I know there are many reports of such experience. What shroom did to me was, as I call it, move to a higher state of consciousness. Intellect was able to comprehend very subtle and very hard to conceive normally phenomena. Emotional problems were solved immediately when they entered consciousness. Upon solving then, a great tranquility and clarity arise. Any new ideas that arise during such a session were applicable in the moment of arising, as an antidote to some disturbing emotions. It is hard to call such an experience as futile. I have also used psychedelics to crack hard to comprehend teachings, and the capacity for understanding was doubled or even tripled. It allowed me to go to the root of a target experience and release all the tension attached to it.
Now, this is my personal experience, and I have never saw anyone else get such results. I think it all depends on you intentions and attitude, dosage, setting, karma etc.. I saw people get terrified with the experience caused by seemingly harmless dosages of very "calm" substance like THC. I think that a psychedelic can temporarily remove a tensions preventing karma to be released. Now, it all depends on what was accumulated, and how the owner responds.
Moreover, I think that trivializing those experiences, and presenting them as something wrong is very harmful to the young ones. An I will tell you why. If a parent presents a negative and exaggerated attitude towards all psychedelics, claiming that nothing positive can come out of them, and that they are just materialized evil, it sets a specific relationship with its children. Now, when a young one is presented to a very blissful experience caused by a psychedelic, which improves his self-esteem, he feels betrayed. Trust is lost, and relationship between child and its parent is severed. Consequences are terrible. It is enough to ask a question. Since psychedelics are almost inevitable in present times, would you like your child to get stoned in home, under you eye, or god knows where, with god knows who, taking god knows what?
Honesty, only honesty can help here.
padma norbu wrote:and it begins to remind you of dreams, how other beings in YOUR dreams act with wills of their own, but if it is YOUR dream, then aren't you somehow behind it all, acting all the parts? It is much more interesting way of looking at reality than with a psychedelic sheen that simply explains it as "opening a doorway to other dimensions" (whatever that means).
Yes, this is how I would explain it. By playing with dosage (starting from very small), one can see that the ration inner chatter and understanding changes. The substance that makes up understanding becomes more vivid and active, and the chatter, which is nothing but echo of the understanding, follows. If there is no fluid transformation, because the dosage is big enough, it may look like another being talking to you. I think it is worth mentioning that the subjects presented in this state are very interesting and intriguing. "He" doesn't talk crap. Because "he" speak not with words, but with understanding, there is no doubt, and it may be interpreted by many as words of God. Another interesting aspect of it, is that understanding comes first, and then we can try to figure out what it was about, grasping after it with concepts. We have understanding, but we don't know conceptually what was understood, so it's appears that it didn't come from us, but rather from an alien being.