Curious Chinese painting.

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Curious Chinese painting.

Postby Indrajala » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:34 pm

I found an interesting 9th century Chinese painting with two interesting features. Firstly, the Indian figures look sufficiently Indian (as opposed to really Chinese like they are often portrayed). The second is that Maudgalyāyana is quite fair compared to his companions. The Buddha of course is golden in colour.

Here Maudgalyāyana is on the left and Śāriputra is on the right with bodhisattvas on the far sides.

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I imagine the artist read that Maudgalyāyana was fair skinned. Śāriputra also has really big eyes.

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Re: Curious Chinese painting.

Postby Rakshasa » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:06 pm

The one on the left looks Mongoloid to me (Chinese?).

Sariputra was an Indo-Aryan Brahmin so I wont be surprised if the tradition is that he was fair complexioned. Back in those days, the Indo-Aryans had still not mixed with the people of Magadha....

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Re: Curious Chinese painting.

Postby pueraeternus » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:14 pm

Huseng wrote:The second is that Maudgalyāyana is quite fair compared to his companions. The Buddha of course is golden in colour.


Interesting! Actually, in the Sri Lanka tradition, Maudgalyayana is depicted as dark blue-skinned (according to the Buddhavamsa):

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Re: Curious Chinese painting.

Postby Indrajala » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:16 am

Rakshasa wrote:The one on the left looks Mongoloid to me (Chinese?).

Sariputra was an Indo-Aryan Brahmin so I wont be surprised if the tradition is that he was fair complexioned. Back in those days, the Indo-Aryans had still not mixed with the people of Magadha....


Śāriputra is the second from the far right. Maudgalyāyana is the fair skinned one.

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Re: Curious Chinese painting.

Postby plwk » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:18 am

Śāriputra also has really big eyes.
Maybe he saw something shocking.... :mrgreen:

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Re: Curious Chinese painting.

Postby Kaji » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:24 am

Interestingly, the colour of Maudgalyāyana's sarira is dark brown (bottom), while Śāriputra's is light grey (top):
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Re: Curious Chinese painting.

Postby Ukigumo » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:43 pm

Huseng wrote:I imagine the artist read that Maudgalyāyana was fair skinned. Śāriputra also has really big eyes.


He looks like an anime character...

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