Since death alone is certain ...

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Since death alone is certain ...

Postby paganbuddha » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:40 pm

Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what should I do?

no I'm not dying anymore than most of you, it's a philosophical question, something that is given as a meditation exercise in most Buddhist traditions, I'm just curious of people's opinion of all walks of life on this question

you can even ask this question from yourself

and you can post even what YOU should do

edit: fixed title
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Re: Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncer

Postby Grigoris » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:45 pm

And what is the question exactly? I mean, I don't see any question marks anywhere in your title or post.
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Postby paganbuddha » Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:33 pm

Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what should I do?

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby dude » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:20 am

study death

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby randomseb » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:27 pm

Don't waste time worrying about death? If you intend to one day practice and gain awakening, don't wait until "one day", start now?

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Re: Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncer

Postby Grigoris » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:28 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby Jesse » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:50 pm

Facing death can put thing's in perspective, for me it makes me want to understand life better, to understand myself. I would personally like to face death with no fear.
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Re: Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncer

Postby Knotty Veneer » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:55 pm

“Trump’s grand and vulgar self-absorption is inviting all of us to examine our own selfishness. His ignorance calls us to attend to our own blind spots. The fears that he stokes and the isolation he promotes goad us to be braver, more generous.” - James S. Gordon.

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:30 pm

Start at the end and work backwards.
Start with something ideal,
even though this may not be what happens.

You are on your deathbed.
It is your last day.
People ask you,
"Do you want some food? Do you want something to drink?
Do you want me to pop a movie into the DVD player for you?
Would you like to wear a fancy hat?"

And you think,
"No, no, there is nothing more that I need.
I am fine just lying here.
And you are finally at peace.
There is nothing more that you need to do.
It's like the end of the workday and
Your shift has ended,
and you are taking a ride home,
so now you can just relax.

No more craving. You are finally free
and everything that people are doing seems
ridiculous somehow
because you are at the last stop on the line
looking backwards at them
at everybody on the train of life,
all running around like crazy
still trying to find a good seat.

So, that final state,
where you don't need anything,
I would try to cultivate that now
while you still have a few breaths left.
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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby Sherab Rigdrol » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:53 pm

Oh I've been asking this question ever since I was a child. At this point in my life I started to work with the dying. Trying now to make a career helping people die as consciously and compassionate as possible. Very lucky to have come across Anyen Rinpoche the past year as he has created a structured way to do that through his Dying With Confidence training. September I'll hopefully be starting Level 1.

Death has always been the pink elephant in the room for the West. I'm doing my best to make friends with him and feed him some peanuts.


Oh and knowing the fact of death--learn and practice as much Dzogchen teachings as humanly possible. Practice Phowa as much as possible too. These are my two goals for the rest of this incarnation.

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Re: Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncer

Postby odysseus » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:57 am

Disclaimer: I'm not a Buddhist teacher, I speak only from my own understanding. I cannot teach, but I can preach so don't preach to me.

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Postby _username_ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:04 am

"When close approaching death you should forgive your neighbor and ask for mercy."

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby Punya » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:29 am

Stop wasting time on Dhama Wheel and go do some practice (note to self :smile: ).
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Lying in the forests of the Malaya mountains
Absorbs the perfume of sandal from the moist leaves and branches
So you come to resemble who whomever you follow.

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby Quiet Heart » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:35 am

Shame on you Shakyamuni for setting the precedent of leaving home.
Did you think it was not there--
in your wife's lovely face
in your baby's laughter?
Did you think you had to go elsewhere (simply) to find it?
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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby LastLegend » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:14 am

NAMO AMITABHA
NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby Andrew108 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:55 am

The Blessed One said:

"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Since death alone is certain ...

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:40 pm

Profile Picture: "The Foaming Monk"
The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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