when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby ngodrup » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:36 pm

I have met Tulku Wangdrak.
Yes, he's a direct descendent of Dudjom Lingpa.
He studied at Serta. He is a Dudjom Tersar lineage holder--
and has recently given lung for the entire Dudjom Tersar in California--
his new residence. He is very powerful.
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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Karma Jinpa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:32 pm

Karma Jinpa wrote:Chagme Rinpoche is the current tulku of the author of the Richö, and also the editor of the Jewel Garland of Chöd Feasts. He has a strong connection to the practice. Currently KCR lives at his monastery in Boudha, Kathmandu, Nepal.
http://www.neydo.org/?key=1&pos=1&act=pagesbiograph


Update: As HH Chagme Rinpoche passed away yesterday, it is no longer possible to receive empowerment, transmission, or instructions from him until his reincarnation is found and trained.

However, I'm sure that the 5th Neydo Sangtrul Rinpoche---the new head of the lineage and son of Chagme Rinpoche---would be more than happy to help beings connect to the practice, especially since Karma Chagme was so intimately involved in the preservation and editing of texts currently available for Chöd practice.
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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Drikung_Dzogchen » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:06 am

What Lama did you receive the Chod practice from in the Drikung lineage? The Lama who has given Cho empowerment, transmission and commentary in the US has been Lho Ontul Rinpoche on two consecutive tours. On bothe tours the empowerment text used was Drikung Lho Nuden Dorje's Rainbow Chod. On one tour the text he taught on was requested by a Karma Kagyu lama if I remember correctly and Lho Nuden Dorje consented and composed this practice. Often Lho Ontul Rinpoche has used this practice when performing Healing Chods. On another tour he taught on a Pure Vision Chod text which is part of Lho Nuden Dorje's Dechen Nyingpo cycle and is a ancillary practice. The actual Rainbow Body Chod practice text is a very unique and extensive Chod practice. We had that translated but it is not practical for most practitioners. I know of only one practitioner in the US that has truly received the instructions to do this practice though when Lho Thupten Nyingpo was here in the US in 2004 we filmed him doing this practice and slowly over time had a preliminary translation done of the practice. Lho Nuden Dorje also has a number of anciliary Chod practices such as smoke offerings, protector practices, a Chod Ngondro that are all quite interesting.
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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Adamantine » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:25 am

Could you elaborate on this Rainbow Body Chod some? I am not familiar with it. I have received wangs from Ontul Rinpoche but not a Chod one. What makes the Rainbow Body Chod so "elaborate"? Is it an extremely long lujin, or is there a tsok practice involved? How does it compare to the various practices of the Dudjom Throma cycle including the elaborate and medium length Throma tsoks?
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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby KonchokZoepa » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:42 am

Drikung_Dzogchen wrote:What Lama did you receive the Chod practice from in the Drikung lineage? The Lama who has given Cho empowerment, transmission and commentary in the US has been Lho Ontul Rinpoche on two consecutive tours. On bothe tours the empowerment text used was Drikung Lho Nuden Dorje's Rainbow Chod. On one tour the text he taught on was requested by a Karma Kagyu lama if I remember correctly and Lho Nuden Dorje consented and composed this practice. Often Lho Ontul Rinpoche has used this practice when performing Healing Chods. On another tour he taught on a Pure Vision Chod text which is part of Lho Nuden Dorje's Dechen Nyingpo cycle and is a ancillary practice. The actual Rainbow Body Chod practice text is a very unique and extensive Chod practice. We had that translated but it is not practical for most practitioners. I know of only one practitioner in the US that has truly received the instructions to do this practice though when Lho Thupten Nyingpo was here in the US in 2004 we filmed him doing this practice and slowly over time had a preliminary translation done of the practice. Lho Nuden Dorje also has a number of anciliary Chod practices such as smoke offerings, protector practices, a Chod Ngondro that are all quite interesting.


i don't know if you were asking from me,

so i received teachings and did the practice together with Lama Sönam Jorphel Drubpon Rinpoche. the practice text was the kusali tsog, with the white offering written by Lord Jigten Sumgon and the red offering and so on i don't remember but it was from machik's lineage.

i did not receive the empowerment, we just did the practice and received teachings about the chöd.
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You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby VajraLion » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:05 pm

Sakya Monastery, Seattle WA

Led by: Tulku Yeshi Rinpoche
Saturday, March 22nd
Time: 9:30– 11:30 am & 1:00 - 4:00 pm
Location: Shrine Room
Suggested contribution: $55 Public, $45 Members
Prerequisite: Refuge
Please also bring bell, damaru (Chod damaru if you have one), kangdhung (traditional bone or copperhorn), and Tsok offering such as meat, fruits, wine, flowers, vegetables, or baked goods.

Tulku Yeshi Rinpoche will bestow the Troma Nagmo Empowerment and Machig Labdron blessing in the morning. In the afternoon he will lead Chӧd Practice and participants will learn and perform the Chӧd ritual dance. Troma Nagmo (Sanskrit: Krishna Krodhini) is a wrathful form of Vajravarahi and is the deity associated with Chöd Practice. She represents the wisdom of all the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas in a wrathfulfemale form. Chöd was founded by Machig Labdrön (1050-1149), the Tibetan female saint who is considered the emanation of Troma Nagmo and received Chöd teachings from the Indian Mahamudra master and Chöd lineage master Padampa Sangye.

Tulku Yeshi Rinpoche is a Dzogchen master and the reincarnation of Dzogchen Gyaltsab Thodo Rinpoche. He was recognized by H.H. Dalai Lama's Nyingmapa teacher Kyabje Trulshig Rinpoche. He received teachings from twenty-five masters representing all five schools of Tibetan Buddhism. He also writes novels, poetry for mind training, provides Tibetan astrology readings, and can bestow empowerments. He is also a Chod master. Currently he is working on Dharma activities at Sakya Monastery in Seattle. He is now working on producing a documentary on His Holiness Jigdal Dagchen Rinpoche’s life. Tulku Yeshe Rinpoche is a Tibetan Buddhist master, poet and author. He has published ten books about philosophy, life, nature, peace and magic. He is the founder of Tibetan Zen, and he has given the Tibetan Zen teaching in many places. His book, “Tibetan Zen”, will be available in 2013. His autobiography, “A Modern Liberation Odyssey”, is available now.

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Happy Thunderbolt » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:28 pm

Dharmaswede... Lodrö Rinpoche is based in Switzerland where he specialises in keeping the Ganden lineage of chö alive.

Traditionally the Dakini's Laughter does require empowerment, usually 'The Sky Opener' is the one given, but it could be Shije initiation instead. In practice some Lamas let you try it first and then after you know what you are getting into will give the initiation later.

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby heart » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:12 pm

Happy Thunderbolt wrote:
Traditionally the Dakini's Laughter does require empowerment, usually 'The Sky Opener' is the one given, but it could be Shije initiation instead. I

Suvajra


Tulku Dakpa, a Longchen Nyingtik lineage holder thinks otherwise;

"In the Longchen Nyingthik tradition the practice of chöd does not require empowerment, only oral transmission."

http://danakosha.fi/en/schedule/special_schedule.html

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby pemachophel » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:03 pm

Tulku Sang-gnag has said that there is no empowerment for Khandro Gyad-jang per se. In His case, He has given a Do Khyentse Sky-opening empowerment to students embarking on the practice of Khandro Gyad-jang.

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Happy Thunderbolt » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:17 pm

pemachophel wrote:Tulku Sang-gnag has said that there is no empowerment for Khandro Gyad-jang per se. In His case, He has given a Do Khyentse Sky-opening empowerment to students embarking on the practice of Khandro Gyad-jang.

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You are right, there is no empowerment for the Khandro Gegyang, PER SE, but it does need an empowerment, as do all chod. Any chö empowerment will suffice... And then traditionally it needs the specific lung.

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Happy Thunderbolt » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:26 pm

heart wrote:
Happy Thunderbolt wrote:
Traditionally the Dakini's Laughter does require empowerment, usually 'The Sky Opener' is the one given, but it could be Shije initiation instead. I

Suvajra


Tulku Dakpa, a Longchen Nyingtik lineage holder thinks otherwise;

"In the Longchen Nyingthik tradition the practice of chöd does not require empowerment, only oral transmission."

http://danakosha.fi/en/schedule/special_schedule.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

/magnus



I think you might be misinterpreting Tulku Dakpa. All chö practices need an initiation. There is not usually a speofic chö initiation for each specific chö practice. What is usually given is the Sky Opener Chö Wang.... This can be from the kagyu lineage, from a Nyinmapa source or even from the Lineage of chö within the Gelugpa. Once you have that, from whichever source, you can can then practice Khandro Gegyang of the Longchen Nyingtig, Lujin of the Kagyus, or the Gyu Lus tsok su Ngo wa of the gelugpa lineage - provided you have been given the specific lung for that practice.

Some other chö practices require further or sometimes specific chö initiations and, of course, they require their own particular empowerments too.

I hope that make sense of what the various lamas have said.

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Malcolm » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:53 pm

Happy Thunderbolt wrote:
I think you might be misinterpreting Tulku Dakpa.


There is no specific dwang for this practice. It only needs a lung.
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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby heart » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:21 pm

Happy Thunderbolt wrote:I think you might be misinterpreting Tulku Dakpa. All chö practices need an initiation.


I don't think there is anything to misunderstand and misinterpret, and just as Malcolm says there is no empowerment for this Chö practice. Some lamas might think you need an empowerment to do Chö but obviously not all.

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby Motova » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:34 am

Her Eminence Mindrolling Jetsün Khandro Rinpoche will be giving a Machig Labdrön empowerment August 14th in Toronto!

http://www.ksdl.org/blog/en/events/

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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby ngodrup » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:49 pm

Garab Dorje Rinpoche is giving Throma Wangchen at
Pema Osel Ling in California on Sept 7th.
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Re: when and where ? Chöd wang and lung

Postby DechenNamdrol » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:21 pm

http://www.machigling.ca/announcements/ ... o-calgary/

Empowerment, transmission and teachings to be given by Ven Chödpa Lama Rinpoche in January 2015 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

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