The Great Cloud Mountain Temple Sutra

The Great Cloud Mountain Temple Sutra

Postby mujushinkyo » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:21 pm

Last year I tried to sum up some of my experiences with Zen by writing my own "sutra."

As a document it would probably be classified as being in the tradition of "mystical Zen."

I am interested in how it strikes other Zen students. And in any case, it was written to share as widely as possible.

Please enjoy it, if there's any merit to be found in it at all, and thanks!

老虎



PROLOGUE

Not using a single word, who's speaking right now? Before any thought appears, what's here? Can you show me the directions north, south, east, and west in vast empty space without pointing your fingers or chin, or even blinking your eyes?

SUTRA (with annotations)

All the senses are just Awareness. (This is a ko-an. Try to "think" it through then, when the way is blocked, merely look at it hard.)

Physical manifestations arise in, and as, Awareness. (They are nothing but.)

But Awareness cannot by Itself, free of physical manifestation, be objectified or grasped. (Nothing stands behind sensory appearances; there is no "real" world over and against the apparent.)

So that when one searches for naked Awareness one mysteriously and hair-raisingly finds Nothingness, or Great Empty Space. (But how empty is it, when it's the vibration of Ki -- Spirit -- itself? Mysterious.)

Your consciousness presents Awareness to Itself energetically as sensory reality. (Your limited, small, bodily consciousness is presenting a sensory show to boundless pure Awareness, which "takes it in" magically.)

Is there a reason for this happening? No, there is no “reason." (It is not logical; it can't be formalized.)

Names and Forms give rise to illusory things. Things do not exist before Names and Forms. (These sentences must be read existentially, as a description you can verify for yourself in every day life.)

How could things exist without concepts such as time and space, self and other, long and short, hot and cold, general and particular, thing and No-thing? (Note the interdependence of words, synthesized "forms" abstracted from bodily moving about in space, and general concepts in creating the sense of "existing" things. You can realize this for yourself.)

Because there are illusory things there seems to be Karma, a linear chain of causes and results and conditions. ("Karma" is a delusion of cause/effect generated by desire, clinging-grasping, based upon crazed ignorance of the fact that one is always already THIS.)

By regaining original mind in a flash (Wu, Satori) one dissolves Karma along with the illusory "ten thousand things." Amazing! ("Buddhas of iron, Buddhas of ice:/shivering under mountain waterfalls,/making mudras out of the vast blue sky." Where was this mind ever lost that one had to regain it? Ha ha.)

To anyone who has gone beyond Names and Forms all things appear as no-things -- as the haunting resonance of Great Empty Space. ("The mystical is real. It shows itself." -Ludwig Wittgenstein)

To live more or less constantly in this Non Abiding No-State (Mu Ju Shin) is the goal of Zen. (The Great Perfection of Atiyoga! No obstructions; life is clear, simple, beautiful, alarmingly great.)

The direct way to Great Enlightenment is via letting go of names and forms for intense, sometimes rapturous but always inexplicable physical sensations. (A bold statement that can be verified by dropping "mind" right now. Do some Zen!)

Great Enlightenment cannot be experienced -- it is the direct way of experiencing. (The "head" experiences; but it doesn't experience how it experiences. The Observatory sees the Starry Sky, not itself).

This headless Zen way is purely physical (mystical), achieved by dropping Names and Forms and seeing reality as it is. ("Headless" now because the head is nowhere in view; the eye that sees can't see itself; the physical is the same as mystical when names and forms melt away into great space.)

Most of the classic Zen techniques such as koans, sitting, Hua T’ou, and the Ways of tea and swordsmanship and bamboo flute are invented to do exactly this. (What? THIS.)

Doing Zen makes talk and writing seem crazy and superfluous. Yet talk and writing go on just the same -- wonderful! (It's wonderful that we occupy ourselves with little details. Make amusing games and rituals out of it all! Strange harmless walks in the midst of life.)

Sit before a wall and behold all the Buddhas -- on the tip of a single hair, a mountain monastery full of radiant sages! (Like Milarepa and the yak horn. Total nonduality is the interpenetration of all Ki recognized in and as every appearance. A voice chases its echo. A face meets its fleeting image in a steam clouded mirror.)

And don't forget the Yamamba who wanders wherever she feels drawn to and in the darkest night, all alone, dances that wild alluring dance no one ever dances. (The Mountain Crone doesn't know what she knows and knows what she doesn't know. Ki goes everywhere like lightning; it has no knowledge, no preferences.)

AUM SWASTI! (Good luck in everything!)

POSTSCRIPT: TWO POEMS

Knock, knock, who's there?
A snail holds the bamboo gate shut.
Wind smashes up the old pines --
and everything's drenched by a freezing rainstorm.

**

Leave the Starry Sky ablaze --
it won't notice that you went inside.
Groping your way to bed by darkness.
Who says there's any truth to speak of?
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Re: The Great Cloud Mountain Temple Sutra

Postby Astus » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:57 pm

"Your consciousness presents Awareness to Itself energetically as sensory reality."

Is there consciousness and Awareness? What is presenting energetically?

"Is there a reason for this happening? No, there is no “reason.""

Do you mean that things just appear without cause?

"How could things exist without concepts such as time and space, self and other..."

Are you proposing that there is an order of concepts from fundamental to advanced?

"Because there are illusory things there seems to be Karma"

So first there are illusory things, then there is karma? Are they separate, or hierarchical? What about karma causing illusory things?

"By regaining original mind in a flash"

How exactly? And why does it dissolve things and karma?

"all things appear as no-things"

What is the difference?

"To live more or less constantly in this Non Abiding No-State (Mu Ju Shin) is the goal of Zen."

More or less constantly? Either it is constant or not. Why more or less?

"The direct way to Great Enlightenment is via letting go of names and forms for intense, sometimes rapturous but always inexplicable physical sensations."

What does this enlighten one about? Getting intense and rapturous sensations without any sense, sounds more like some drug induced state. And if all is Awareness, why is the emphasis on physical?

"Do some Zen!"

What is doing Zen?

"Great Enlightenment cannot be experienced -- it is the direct way of experiencing."

Aren't all experiences direct? If it is not immediate, it is not an experience, is it?

"This headless Zen way is purely physical (mystical)"

Do you mean that out of the six sensory faculties one is lost?

"Doing Zen makes talk and writing seem crazy and superfluous."

Then it is stupid Zen. Nobody should do such a thing.
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)
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Re: The Great Cloud Mountain Temple Sutra

Postby mujushinkyo » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:04 am

Astus wrote:"Your consciousness presents Awareness to Itself energetically as sensory reality."

Is there consciousness and Awareness? What is presenting energetically?

"Is there a reason for this happening? No, there is no “reason.""

Do you mean that things just appear without cause?

"How could things exist without concepts such as time and space, self and other..."

Are you proposing that there is an order of concepts from fundamental to advanced?

"Because there are illusory things there seems to be Karma"

So first there are illusory things, then there is karma? Are they separate, or hierarchical? What about karma causing illusory things?

"By regaining original mind in a flash"

How exactly? And why does it dissolve things and karma?

"all things appear as no-things"

What is the difference?

"To live more or less constantly in this Non Abiding No-State (Mu Ju Shin) is the goal of Zen."

More or less constantly? Either it is constant or not. Why more or less?

"The direct way to Great Enlightenment is via letting go of names and forms for intense, sometimes rapturous but always inexplicable physical sensations."

What does this enlighten one about? Getting intense and rapturous sensations without any sense, sounds more like some drug induced state. And if all is Awareness, why is the emphasis on physical?

"Do some Zen!"

What is doing Zen?

"Great Enlightenment cannot be experienced -- it is the direct way of experiencing."

Aren't all experiences direct? If it is not immediate, it is not an experience, is it?

"This headless Zen way is purely physical (mystical)"

Do you mean that out of the six sensory faculties one is lost?

"Doing Zen makes talk and writing seem crazy and superfluous."

Then it is stupid Zen. Nobody should do such a thing.


Do some real Zen! Expand your ability. Read widely.

What you may believe is stupid may just be beyond you personally!
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