Shobogenzo & Commentary

Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby mint » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:26 pm

Looking for the best English translation of the Shobogenzo and the best commentary.
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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Astus » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:34 pm

I think those translations on the Soto Zen Text Project page are the best in English. (However, for some reason the website seems to be hidden in the last few weeks.)
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)
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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby White Lotus » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:21 pm

i have ''moon in a dewdrop'' which contains popular excerpts from the shobogenzo. not too dry. prefer the shinji shobogenzo of koans, purportedly compiled by Dogen. a fun read.

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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Will » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:11 pm

This translation from BDK is well-respected. There are four digital volumes and also four hardcover books available. The digital PDF version is free, the books are $30 each.

http://www.bdkamerica.org/default.aspx?MPID=81
One should refrain from biased judgments and doubting in fathoming the Buddha and the Dharma of the Buddhas. Even though a dharma may be extremely difficult to believe, one should nonetheless maintain faith in it. Nagarjuna
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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Sara H » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:42 am

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"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy
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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Sara H » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:42 am

I love Dogen.
I've always found him to have a great sense of humor as well as being deeply insightful.

Rev. Hubert Nearman (Dr. Mark. J. Nearman) of Shasta Abbey spent many years translating the Shōbōgenzō, with great care.

Shasta Abbey offer's it for free as a PDF download, or as individual chapters, also available for PDF download.

For a good commentary of many of the chapters, I recommend the Roar of the Tigress; The Oral Teachings of Reverend Master Jiyu-Kennett: Western Woman and Zen Master,Volume Two "Zen for Spiritual Adults; Lectures Inspired by the Shobogenzo by Ehei Dogen"

Both are available for free PDF download.

http://www.shastaabbey.org/teachings-publications.html

You can also find hard copy's of The Roar of the Tigress Volume II online on various online retailers, as well as an earlier hard copy of volume 1 of the Shōbōgenzō translated Rev. Nearman.


I hope you enjoy,
In gasshō,
Sara H
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IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy
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