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Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby Stiphan » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:57 pm

I would like to know Ajahn Chah's lineage of teachers going back to as many generations of teachers as possible.

So far, after my very brief search I have found just two:

Ajahn Chah < Ajahn Mun < Ajahn Sao


Any help would greatly be appreciated!
Thanks.

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby daverupa » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:14 pm

Prince Mongkut was a bhikkhu from 1824 to 1851, and started the Dhammayuttika Nikaya as a reform movement in 1833 (which was officially recognized in 1902). Ajahn Sao was born in 1861, but I'm not sure when he ordained. The earliest would be 1880, while Ajahn Mun was ordained in 1893 and Ajahn Chah in 1939.

Given all this, it seems you'd only really need one or two more names; prior that that, the Dhammayuttika Nikaya didn't exist.

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby Mr Man » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:55 pm

I don't think Ajahn Chah had a lineage of teachers as such. I would say his lineage was Dhamma Vinaya and he was influenced by a number of teachers and events.

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby Mr Man » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:22 pm

You can listen to a biography of Ajahn Chah here: http://www.ajahnchah.org/videos.htm
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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby bodom » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:03 pm

Biography of Ajahn Chah
http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/About_Ajahn_Chah.php

Video Series: Biography of Ajahn Chah
http://www.ajahnchah.org/videos.htm

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby bodom » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:11 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby Bankei » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 am

There could be two different 'lineages" - ordination lineage and teacher/disciple lineage (in the broad sense).

Achan Chah was of a completely separate ordination lineage to Achan Mun because they belonged to different nikaya.
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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby Sokehi » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:47 am

That shows quite clearly that formal lineages are sometimes of lesser importance than being inspired through the even shortest meeting with a impressive personality.

Lineages are born quite often I guess. Sometimes disciples focus on their very own teacher and claim to be in a very new lineage of their own.

Sometimes I find this quite irritating, disciples focus so much on their teacher that he seems to get even more important than the Dhamma or the Buddha. Guru cults are dangerous.
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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby DAWN » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:53 pm

Can we say that Ajhan Mun plant the seed in Ajahn Chah ? If we can say that, so we can also say that he was his teacher.
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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby daverupa » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:01 pm

It all requires the arising of a tathagata in the world, in our case the Buddha.

AN 5.88 is noteworthy in this connection, as there we can read that a popular monk with many followers - a celebrity monk, if you like - can still have wrong view.

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

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Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby bodom » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:52 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Ajahn Chah lineage?

Postby SamBodhi » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:01 pm

Stephen K,

It is my understanding that a god deal of Ajahn Chah's students are still around. And when I say "students" I mean those who are now teachers but learned from Ajahn Chah. I am wondering if it would be possible for you to just ask them what Venerable Ajahn Chah's view of "lineage" was and to find out who would be listed in what we might call a teaching lineage. I find it very likely that because these Archariyas were to be teaching and leading monastics, Ajahn Chah may have mentioned some pertinent information to them that is not found in books or other sources.

Or you might find that some don't think it's important and that Ajahn Chah's teaching legacy can be found in his books and in your own heart.


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