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Re: Mirror-mind

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:35 pm

norman wrote:You'll have to ask yourself whether this conversation is valuable or not. I'm merely attempting to sort out the implicit arguments in the reasoning to begin with.
How will this conversation assist you in attaining liberation?
Any apparant reflection you refer to doesn't exist, since the sensed/perceived image IN itself cannot appear as an object OF itself.
This statement makes no sense to me whatsoever. Anybody else out there understand what is being said here?
Otherwise you have two images of the same Appearance.
What in hells name does this mean? Is a mirage an object of visual perception? Of course it is. Is it a reflection of an (apparently) existing object? Of course it is. Does it have an (apparent) existence of its own? Of course it does. Can you see a mirage and see the object of the mirage, in some cases, yes. So can you have two images of the same appearance (visual object). Yes.

An object does not need to exist as a visual sensory object and a body sensory object at the same time. Take a rainbow for example (or the abovementioned example of a mirage).
The reason for not being able to See any reflection is due to the fact that the act of seeing, or other sensing, is part of the image cognized.
No it's not, it is part of the process of cognizing. A visual object does not stop existing just because you are not sensing and cognizing it.
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
Naropa - Summary of the View from The Eight Doha Treasures
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