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Postby alwayson » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:54 pm

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Jangchup Donden wrote: If anything, European socialism is probably doing the best out of any economic policy.



You are kidding right?

You haven't heard of Greece and several other countries in the European Union having ridiculous economic problems?

And these economic problems were directly traced to their socialist government policies.


P.S. You must be living in strict retreat away from the media LOL
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby alwayson » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:42 am

Virgo wrote:Besides this is a thread about the Dalai Lamas reincarnations.

Kevin



Well if you read what the HH Dalai Lama wrote, you will see it is about the commies and the socialists designating the next incarnation of the Dalai Lama.

Lets be clear on that.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Virgo » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:46 am

alwayson wrote:
Virgo wrote:Besides this is a thread about the Dalai Lamas reincarnations.

Kevin



Well if you read what the HH Dalai Lama wrote, you will see it is about the commies and the socialists designating the next incarnation of the Dalai Lama.

Lets be clear on that.

Nevertheless, politics isn't a realm that you can control. Our own mind is something we can change with Dharma.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby alwayson » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:51 am

Virgo wrote:Nevertheless, politics isn't a realm that you can control. Our own mind is something we can change with Dharma.



Communism and socialism are pure evil.

Now they are interfering with rebirths of Buddhist masters!

I guess they got bored with killing more people than Hitler.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Virgo » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:56 am

alwayson wrote:
Virgo wrote:Nevertheless, politics isn't a realm that you can control. Our own mind is something we can change with Dharma.



Communism and socialism are pure evil.

Now they are interfering with rebirths of Buddhist masters!

I guess they got bored with killing more people than Hitler.

So is aversion.

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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Tilopa » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:09 am

Virgo wrote:Nevertheless, politics isn't a realm that you can control. Our own mind is something we can change with Dharma.


Yes the real problem is greed [and other delusions]....capitalism / communism / socialism are just different ways of dealing with it.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby kirtu » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:09 am

alwayson wrote:HH Dalai Lama spent his entire adult life fighting against socialism and communism.

So I am with the HH Dalai Lama. Not you Kirtu.


You are projecting your own political agenda. Even communism is not necessarily evil - the Indian state of Kerala is a counterexample. And not all of capitalism is oppressive. Canada is a good counterexample for that as well.

kirtu wrote:Oh yeah, capitalist countries are invariably fountains of democracy and goodness - just like Dickensonian England, Slave Owning America, Apartheid America, Argentina, Nigeria, South Africa and modern India just to throw a few examples together.

Kirt.


If you want to play the history game, I have one word for you: Stalin


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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby alwayson » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:26 am

kirtu wrote:You are projecting your own political agenda.

Kirt


I'm just supporting HH Dalai Lama's lifetime struggle, which he even received the Nobel Peace Prize for.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby narraboth » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:13 pm

alwayson wrote:WOW

HH Dalai Lama is REALLY throwing down the gauntlet with the commies / socialists here.
Hopefully China becomes capitalistic, so we don't have to put up with their crap anymore.

Embrace Capitalism China!!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edf7xPbPZrc


1. Religious freedom is not linked to socialism or capitalism. The main idea here is, Chinese Communist Party denies religion, but they want to get involved with religious issue, that's shameless.

2. China is kind of a capticalism country now, maybe more capitalist than some european countries, just china is without democracy.

3. Talking about making crap, maybe chinese government think the US national debt they hold are more dodgy. How about thinking capticalism's own problem before raising an unproper/controversial/Tea Party idea.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby narraboth » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:17 pm

alwayson wrote:
kirtu wrote:You are projecting your own political agenda.

Kirt


I'm just supporting HH Dalai Lama's lifetime struggle, which he even received the Nobel Peace Prize for.


come on, HH didn't get Nobel Prize for supporting Capitalism!
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Malcolm » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:55 pm

narraboth wrote:
alwayson wrote:WOW

HH Dalai Lama is REALLY throwing down the gauntlet with the commies / socialists here.
Hopefully China becomes capitalistic, so we don't have to put up with their crap anymore.

Embrace Capitalism China!!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edf7xPbPZrc


1. Religious freedom is not linked to socialism or capitalism. The main idea here is, Chinese Communist Party denies religion, but they want to get involved with religious issue, that's shameless.

2. China is kind of a capticalism country now, maybe more capitalist than some european countries, just china is without democracy.

3. Talking about making crap, maybe chinese government think the US national debt they hold are more dodgy. How about thinking capticalism's own problem before raising an unproper/controversial/Tea Party idea.


China is a mercantile state. This is a pre- Capitalist phase. Wiki states: "Mercantilism is the economic doctrine that says government control of foreign trade is of paramount importance for ensuring the prosperity and security of a state. In particular, it demands a positive balance of trade."

It continues:

Mercantilist policies have included:
High tariffs, especially on manufactured goods; [x]
Monopolizing markets with staple ports; [x, i.e. walmart]
Exclusive trade with colonies;
Forbidding trade to be carried in foreign ships;
Export subsidies; [x}
Banning all export of gold and silver;
Promoting manufacturing with research or direct subsidies; [x]
Limiting wages; [x]
Maximizing the use of domestic resources; [x]
Restricting domestic consumption with non-tariff barriers to trade. [x]
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby alwayson » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:49 pm

narraboth wrote:3. Talking about making crap, maybe chinese government think the US national debt they hold are more dodgy. How about thinking capticalism's own problem before raising an unproper/controversial/Tea Party idea.



Even with the American credit downgrade, international investors are buying more American treasuries.

Why?

American treasuries are viewed as the safest investment in the world, even now.

So when socialist Europe's debt crisis tanks the entire world's stock market, everyone comes running to America.


P.S. Supporting socialism on a Buddhist board is improper, considering it is pure evil.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Kai » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:57 pm

alwayson wrote:
mudra wrote:China is capitalistic, they just don't know it.



They describe it as a blend capitalism and socialism which they stupidly think is superior to pure Western Capitalism.


Chinese Premier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rsu0L9sdus


China is in for a serious trouble in the next two or three decades, maybe its karma, maybe its not but when it really does happen, hopefully, the world will stop focusing on them.

China's history is revolting btw.......the common thing can be seen from their history is that they spent most of the time fighting against their own people than the foreign invaders........
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Malcolm » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:11 pm

alwayson wrote:P.S. Supporting socialism on a Buddhist board is improper, considering it is pure evil.


Which socialism did you have in mind? You sound like a follower of Ayn Rand.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby alwayson » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:36 pm

Namdrol wrote:You sound like a follower of Ayn Rand.


I'm simply a supporter of HH Dalai Lama, although I am not a Vajrayanist.


Namdrol wrote:Which socialism did you have in mind?



The kind of socialism that kills millions of people and persecutes the Dalai Lama even in the year 2011.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby conebeckham » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:49 pm

alwayson wrote:Communism and socialism are pure evil.


Actually, HHDL has said that elements of socialism are quite laudable, and he appreciates Marxism. But of course what's practiced in the PRC is not really true Socialism or Communism.

Capitolism is also inherently problematic, as we've seen. In fact, all forms of governance are firmly of "Samsara," so we could say they're all "evil."
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Malcolm » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:51 pm

alwayson wrote:
I'm simply a supporter of HH Dalai Lama, although I am not a Vajrayanist.


HHDL is a self-proclaimed marxist.

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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby alwayson » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:53 pm

conebeckham wrote:But of course what's practiced in the PRC is not really true Socialism or Communism.




Well thats the whole problem with Communism.

What I studied in school was, that Communism always end in Totalitarianism.
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby Kai » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:53 pm

conebeckham wrote:Capitolism is also inherently problematic, as we've seen. In fact, all forms of governance are firmly of "Samsara," so we could say they're all "evil."


Define "evil"........ :oops:
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Re: Dalai Lama speaks on reincarnation

Postby conebeckham » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:57 pm

"Evil"=that which is "bad," that which is negative, that which is of suffering or causes suffering.....I dunno, it's not really a "Buddhist Concept," but Alwayson was the one to use the word, so perhaps he should try to define his terms.
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