Yeshe wrote:I could think of one which was more accurate, but instead will address the root of your problem
I don't have a problem Yeshe. Nor am I trying to create a problem for you or anyone else. I'm interested in exploring the implications of the reply by Mr. Godro:
mr. gordo wrote:I mean, "the Buddha" has a religion named and after him called "Buddhism" where we have statements of his defining what his positions are. But hey, forget that, let's just take what we like, and discard what we don't, but still have the arrogance to call it Buddhism.
Yeshe wrote:In very simple terms I do not recall any Mahayana teachers I have come across rejecting the Pali Canon
The Mahāyāna explicitly denigrates and rejects the path and goal of the Dharma taught by śramaṇa Gautama as an "inferior" Dharma. Hīnayāna quite literally means a "deficient vehicle" or a "defective vehicle." One only has to read the Saddharmapuṇḍarīka Sūtra to find this repudiation of the Dharma (as taught by śramaṇa Gautama) being put into the mouth of the "Buddha" himself.
Yeshe wrote:As for the accusation about the adoption of 'non-Buddhist' deities, I would love to see the historical evidence for this, as I am aware of the growth of Tantra in both Buddhist and 'Hindu' practices, but have seen no firm evidence that the traffic was one-way, nor in which direction.
The Mahāyāna appropriation of non-Buddhist deities began long before the appearance of the Vajrayāna. Mañjuśrī and Avalokiteśvara are two early examples.
Yeshe wrote:Your main thrust here about rebirth started with a poke at the site
No it didn't. It started in a discussion with Mr. Gordo regarding the literal teachings of the Buddha.
Yeshe wrote:in so (innocently ?) rejecting some of the basis of the ToS (Terms of Service).
I'm in no way rejecting the ToS. Surely, discussion of the historical developments of the Dharma are not taboo on a Dharma discussion forum?
Yeshe wrote:You mentioned your dislike of eSangha and rejection of aspects which make this site similar. Logically, therefore, your comment that you are on the right forum may need revisiting.
Again, an inaccurate characterization. I liked E-sangha very much. I don't approve of some of the actions of some of the moderators there over the last year or so of its existence. But FTR, none of those actions were ever leveled against myself, and I was never involved in any of the controversial events with regard to the Zen forum or the Theravāda forum which eventually led to much animosity and the banning of Zen teachers and the mass resignation of a number of Theravāda forum mods.
All the best,