Adamantine wrote: Jikan wrote:
On the topic of the new Dharma protector, this is from Ray's Dharma Ocean website:
http://www.dharmaocean.org/default/inde ... e-colorado
Spiritual leaders have long acknowledged the potency of the area, singling it out as one of the best places in the world for retreat practice. Reggie Ray, upon climbing the mountain known as Kit Carson, encountered the energy of Ritrö Gönpo, the Protector of Mountain Retreats, watching over the valley and its practice activities. Ritrö Gönpo has subsequently become a major protector of Dharma Ocean, our community, and our work.
and somewhere else on the same site I learned that Ritrö Gönpo is in fact an emanation of Vajrakilaya.
Question: at what point does this discovery of what seems to be a bit more than a local protector put Ray in the position, effectively, of claiming to be a terton?
That's interesting, in the interview I recall him saying something more along the lines of it being a
mountain retreat protector, and in the context it seemed like it was a local protector, -a new one dependent on that place. I don't believe he was using a name like in the paragraph above, which implies it is the energy of an already known protector. Does anyone know about the history of a protector called Ritro Gonpo? Is it known to be an emanation of Vajrakilaya outside of this website? And have other high Lamas confirmed this entity/energy is indeed the same? The only problem I can see about this, if this is indeed a known protector, is Ray advertising that he has the ability- the special vision, to recognize such things. This seems a bit like claiming a level of realization. And then there is the question of he really is capable of this, if this is the same entity etc. This wouldn't be an issue of claiming to be a terton-- claiming special abilities and claiming terma discovery are different things. There is no sense of any terma revelation in anything he has said so far.
Crestone is special.
There are a number of people who have commented on the qualities of this place.
Ther 16th Karmapa visited Crestone in 1979. He felt the area would be perfect for the preservation and practice of Dharma and was given 200 acres to fullfill that vision. After HH died, a Stupa was erected there in his honor - the Tashi Gomang Stupa.
Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamsto Rinoche remarked that Crestone was one of just a few places in the world perfect for retreat practice.
Thrangu Rinpoche likes it there. He built his Vajra Vidya retreat center there and teaches a 9-day retreat in Crestone each summer. It's an event not to be missed.
I've been to Crestone many times. I love it down there. Like Khenpo Rinpoche said it's a great place for retreat. I did a 5-day retreat at Varjra Vidya last fall, and it was an experience I will not soon forget. If I could figure out a way to make a living there I'd move in a heartbeat.
Other teachers - Reggie Ray, and Dzigar Kongtrul Rinpoche live there. Reggie has been building an awesome center.
I don't know for sure if there really is a dharmapala inhabiting the mountains around Crestone and after all, just what is a dharma protector anyway? Regardless of that, there is a definite "presense" in Crestone, a palpable, positive energy that pervades everything. I've never been to a place quite like it.
And now Reggie Ray is self styling as a Terton? That's rich. What next? Will it be that Reggie and his wife Lee eat babies or something?