Nemo wrote:This was still a useful thread. I read one of Marc Sisson's books. It had a few good tips. I keep wishing there was a way I could be vegetarian and healthy. Evolutionary biology makes that very unlikely. Where my ancestors are from it was likely 85% of calories came from animals. Agriculture was introduced very recently and their has been no time to adapt. On an island near where my grandfather is from 1 in 250 will literally die without meat as they cannot synthesize carnitine. As I age it gets harder to go without meat and most grains make me somewhat ill.
A few have adapted to agriculture, probably most have not. A very few may no longer be adapted to either as unused genes are often lost. I am amused at how Thras thinks all people are exactly like him in their dietary needs. I wish more research went into finding the secret sauce of making cavemen like me into healthy vegetarians.
You and me, both. I have learned to make peace with the fact that the Buddha himself ate meat. Sure, he apparently once laid down in front of a starving tiger mom and fed her his own blood, too... but meat as a dietary necessity is one particular life circumstance that really caused me to look at myself and my judgements and to reevaluate this world and my place in it. This is samsara and as a human being I have certain limitations and am in every way posed with finding the lesser of two evils option. When I finally resorted to eating meat for my own health, I was extremely bummed about it and it was at this point that I realized I was on kind of a high horse about not eating meat (as if I was better than Buddha himself by not eating meat?) Big deal, I didn't eat meat. Buddha ate meat and was better than me in every possible way, while I was a bitchy little jerk taking some sort of pride or comfort in the fact that at least I didn't eat meat, which in reality was not all too hard since I don't even really like meat, anyway! So, not much of a sacrifice or even much of a compassionate act.
However, you're right. It is very difficult to maintain health on a vegetarian diet. There is a lot of hype about vegan and vegetarian diets lately and so of course everyone is becoming convinced it is the best choice, but the hype is based on extremely flawed data.
This is a very worthwhile watch for anyone, as Denise Minger explains some of the flawed data:
I still don't encourage people to eat meat and I have been trying to find the perfect balance of minimum meat requirements for my own body.