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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:58 pm 
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This is from the section of the Abhidharmakosabhasyam where Vasubandhu explains the order of the skandhas:
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Matter is the pot, sensation is the food, ideas are the seasoning, the samskaras are the cook, and the mind is the consumer. We have a third reason for the order of the skandhas.

(La Vallée Poussin, Pruden translation)

I find this a rather charming image, but I'm wondering if this is actually a good way to think about the skandhas. I would be happy to hear what the learned members of DW think.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 12:03 am 
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SN 22.95, for your consideration. An alternate set of similes, here.

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daverupa wrote:
SN 22.95, for your consideration. An alternate set of similes, here.


This is my favorite, favorite, favorite :heart:
Form is like a glob of foam; feeling, a bubble;
perception, a mirage; fabrications, a banana tree;
consciousness, a magic trick — this has been taught by the Kinsman of the Sun.

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Beginning with the body as taught by the One
with profound discernment:
when abandoned by three things
form is rejected, cast aside.
When bereft of these it lies thrown away,
senseless, a meal for others.
That's the way it goes: it's a magic trick,
an idiot's babbling. It's said to be.
'man with good eyesight were to see it"
:reading
it's good in quotation.

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dzogchungpa wrote:
This is from the section of the Abhidharmakosabhasyam where Vasubandhu explains the order of the skandhas:
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Matter is the pot, sensation is the food, ideas are the seasoning, the samskaras are the cook, and the mind is the consumer. We have a third reason for the order of the skandhas.

(La Vallée Poussin, Pruden translation)

I find this a rather charming image, but I'm wondering if this is actually a good way to think about the skandhas. I would be happy to hear what the learned members of DW think.


Works for me.

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Malcolm wrote:
Works for me.

OK, so is there anything that would correspond to jñāna in this metaphor?

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dzogchungpa wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Works for me.

OK, so is there anything that would correspond to jñāna in this metaphor?


No, since the skandhas only present contaminated phenomena.

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Maybe jñāna could correspond to the state of having gone to the bathroom, so to speak.

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