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How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:48 pm

Doubt is a disease. How to cure it?

No, I don't have the answer ok.

Discuss.

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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby Ayu » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:50 pm

LastLegend wrote:How to cure it?


Study & meditation about the studies. Then you don't have to believe anything, but you get closer to knowing.
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What can we do with (just) our own happiness?
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:58 pm

No, I don't want to meditate. I want to become Buddha. :lol:
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby Ayu » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:01 am

Ah, then you didn't specify your question: How to cure it with only the means that I like. :smile:
Sorry, for this you'll have to find an answer by yourself. :popcorn:
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:07 am

LastLegend wrote: Doubt is a disease. How to cure it?

Doubt is a manifestation of awareness that arises with an object of doubt.
So, it depends on the object.
What is it that you doubt?
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:08 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:
LastLegend wrote: Doubt is a disease. How to cure it?

Doubt is a manifestation of awareness that arises with an object of doubt.
So, it depends on the object.
What is it that you doubt?
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Can't recall it right now.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby dharmagoat » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:11 am

Doubt is your friend.

No need to cure it. It will pass with time. It is a process.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:13 am

dharmagoat wrote:Doubt is your friend.

No need to cure it. It will pass with time. It is a process.


I doubt your statement.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby duckfiasco » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:22 am

Recognize "this is doubt."
Then study the qualities of doubt itself instead of paying so much attention to what it's screaming about.
Basically, don't be fooled.

Also study attachment to views.

This article by Thrangu Rinpoche has been instrumental for me in this regard: http://www.purifymind.com/ObstaclesPath.htm
So the first step, of course, is recognizing that a klesha has arisen. Normally we don't recognize even that. Normally when a klesha arises it takes hold of us before we are even prepared to admit that it has arisen. At this point, having learned what the kleshas are and having come to admit that they arise has prepared you to recognize and acknowledge them when they do arise. Although you recognize the arising of the klesha, and although normally we consider kleshas poisonous and problematic, you don't try to stop or get rid of the klesha when it arises. The approach here is identical to that with thoughts in general. When the klesha arises and you recognize such-and-such klesha has arisen in my mind, you don't try to chase it out or stop it, nor do you indulge it. You don't need to stop it because the nature of the klesha is empty, the same as the nature of thought, the same as the nature of mind. So therefore once you have recognized the arising of whatever klesha it is, then you simply look directly at its nature without altering anything, without attempting to alter your mind or the klesha. As you look at its nature you will experience and recognize its nature. In order to do this of course your mind needs to be somewhat relaxed, but also you need to have a lucid awareness.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:26 am

LastLegend wrote:
PadmaVonSamba wrote:
LastLegend wrote: Doubt is a disease. How to cure it?

Doubt is a manifestation of awareness that arises with an object of doubt.
So, it depends on the object.
What is it that you doubt?

Can't recall it right now.

Then I guess you cured it for now.
Do you think it will come back?
If you doubt it will, good.
if you don't doubt it, even better!
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby smcj » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:27 am

Do NgonDro. Kongtrul's "Torch of Certainty" is called that for a reason.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby seeker242 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:17 am

LastLegend wrote:No, I don't want to meditate. I want to become Buddha. :lol:


:rolling:

You could take the zen approach and just stop wanting. Then you don't have to do anything. :tongue:
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby dharmagoat » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:18 am

LastLegend wrote:
dharmagoat wrote:Doubt is your friend.

No need to cure it. It will pass with time. It is a process.

I doubt your statement.

Maybe we are talking about different things.

Are you referring to thoughts of doubt that arise in meditation, or a general feeling of doubt regarding certain teachings?
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby Kunga Lhadzom » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:04 am

How to cure doubt ?

By having faith !

:alien:


http://what-buddha-said.net/drops/III/T ... _Faith.htm


I never even doubted lotus blossoms falling from the sky !


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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby dude » Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:18 am

LastLegend wrote:No, I don't want to meditate. I want to become Buddha. :lol:


If you don't follow the directions, how can you cure anything?
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:38 am

dude wrote:
LastLegend wrote:No, I don't want to meditate. I want to become Buddha. :lol:


If you don't follow the directions, how can you cure anything?


Who prescribed directions?
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:42 am

I want to stop doubting my Buddha mind even when the sky is flipping upside down, I show no fear and 10 thousand Buddhas appear before me, I show no delight.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby dude » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:55 am

LastLegend wrote:
dude wrote:
LastLegend wrote:No, I don't want to meditate. I want to become Buddha. :lol:


If you don't follow the directions, how can you cure anything?


Who prescribed directions?


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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby dharmagoat » Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:07 am

Q.E.D.
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Re: How to cure doubt

Postby LastLegend » Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:19 am

by meditation?

When do you stop practicing meditation?

I want to become Buddha not meditation. :rolling:
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