What is that you want?

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Re: What is that you want?

Postby LastLegend » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:10 am

Lindama wrote:i almost fell for it too.... that's why it's such a great reflection. It is completely meaningless at the core


What is meant by meaningless?
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby oushi » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:00 am

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Re: What is that you want?

Postby Jesse » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:33 am

Peace.
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby thunderbumble » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:25 pm

steveb1 wrote:I have the aspiration to Buddhahood.

I am a Jodo Shinshu (Shin) follower.

There is no "practice toward enlightenment" in Jodo Shinshu.

Instead, salvation, enlightenment, and Buddhahood are gifts of sheer grace, mediated by Amida Buddha.

So I rely not on practice, but on Amida's providence, which will fulfill my aspiration for Buddhahood.
:)

Yes, Amida Buddha has done, is doing, and will do all for us.
That cuts out the suffering of grasping after wanting equanimity, peace, enlightenment.

We just have everyday minds.

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So, bhikkhus, you should train in this way: The heart-deliverance of loving-kindness will be maintained in being and made much of by us, used as our vehicle, used as our foundation, established, consolidated, and properly managed. That is how you should train
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby Lindama » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:23 pm

LastLegend wrote:
Lindama wrote:i almost fell for it too.... that's why it's such a great reflection. It is completely meaningless at the core


What is meant by meaningless?


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is one explanation.

I will blunder forward. I've been seeing how each of us has a particularly unique response and how we can be mirrors for ourselves as well as others. There is a variety of understandings of the same thing. Thus meaning and non meaning shift about. Specifically, this word "pathetic" is a close-up example... it has an ambiguous meaning: "having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity " and people have taken it to mean a variety of things. What we want is not fixed, so how can it have meaning beyond our particular preference in a particular moment. Personal preference needs to be considered, but we are not necessarily here to hold our preference as having ultimate meaning. Thus meaningless at the core points to this impermanence. Depending on one's POV, it can sound completely devastating and nihilistic... or it can carry dynamic spontaneity that leaves us dancing with life free of fixed meaning. my two cents...
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby Simon E. » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:53 pm

What ?
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:15 pm

Simon E. wrote:What ?


lol, i kinda second that.
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby thunderbumble » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:00 pm

IF..If only I could feel total gratitude toward all beings all the time
Total unconditional love is the answer.
It covers all the 8 Noble Truths.
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So, bhikkhus, you should train in this way: The heart-deliverance of loving-kindness will be maintained in being and made much of by us, used as our vehicle, used as our foundation, established, consolidated, and properly managed. That is how you should train
Samyutta Nikaya 20:3
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby thunderbumble » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:21 pm

thunderbumble wrote:IF..If only I could feel total gratitude toward all beings all the time
Total unconditional love is the answer.
It covers all the 8 Noble Truths.

Oops, 8 Fold Path
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So, bhikkhus, you should train in this way: The heart-deliverance of loving-kindness will be maintained in being and made much of by us, used as our vehicle, used as our foundation, established, consolidated, and properly managed. That is how you should train
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby AlexanderS » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:00 pm

oushi wrote:What is the goal you want to achieve through your spiritual practice?
Honestly and in simple words that you understand. For example, never ending bliss, or joy. Sharp mind, clear thinking etc.
So, what is that you really desire?


I honestly just want true peace.
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Re: What is that you want?

Postby Alfredo » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:34 pm

Me, I like a little conflict. Spices things up!
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