Lindama wrote:Causality is transformed by recognizing inseparability. Allowing the free movement of the universe (for lack of a better term) implies a dropping of ego, conditioning, and ideas about reality. But, for me, it's full of colors and shapes, just that they are empty of any inherent meaning.
This is it! Thank you. :)
praeteritum wrote:Again, words make this seem awkward, not causality itself.
No phenomena possesses a self. There is no such thing as causality itself. It's all made up by words.
True, and that was not what I was trying to say. English language is full of terms like itself, self, me, you, I, it, etc. It's very difficult to construct sentences that don't contain such.
oushi wrote:I do not see or look for an answer "in" any phenomena. I do not go and investigate them until I find something in them.
I'm saying that causality is not a separation. I don't look for an answer either. If you allow the flower to exist, you are separating the flower from everything else. I am showing that the flower is not separate.
oushi wrote:We were, but there are few golden chains that you still cling to, like:
"Causality can be seen in everything, and with knowledge of it, new things can be created."
Sounds to good to be abandoned. Who would voluntarily give up power to create? Only someone who knows it is nothing but illusion. Phenomena are liberated not by something or someone. In contrary, they are liberated because nothing and no one blocks their arising.
But it's not that sort of creation, it instead is more in align with "allowing." Nothing to do with power, because there is no separation from the "creator" and the "creation."
Thus creator and creation cease to exist, but avoiding the dualistic nature of "is" and "is not."
However, "what" is liberated? Saying no one blocks their arising, is saying there is a separation. There's not a separation, and there are no things to be liberated.
oushi wrote:In causality all things would arise from their causes, and you would have to figure out how to liberate them. Since they would be bound by their causes, and no different from then (no chance for separation), liberation would be impossible.
There is no separation. Cause is not separate from effect, or things, or anything. If you were to just "allow," then there "is" and there "is not."