oushi wrote:I see a problem with theory of cause and effect, that is, separations it creates. It builds a fake concepts which have no basis for existence outside the environment in which they arise. I don't see a good reason to build further theories upon false ground.
Surely we must agree that an effect cannot happen without a cause, so to say there is a separation is to confirm that these are not linked, maybe we cannot see the cause itself but should we introduce the word separation to divide it up? Fake concepts they may be due to their existence as it is impermanent and we can also say that life itself is also a fake concept too, can't we?
oushi wrote:Now, there is a different way of looking at it, which does not have those negative consequences, and it is allowance. Phenomena arise not through
a "effort" of causes, but through allowance of everything. For something to arise, everything needs to enable it to arise.
Interesting when you use the word "allowance", what if we use "right conditions", an effect cannot happen without the right conditions but requires an initial cause.
oushi wrote:To implement, you would have to force change, which is an attempt to break karma flow. That clouds Liberation. To implement, is to control.
How can you liberate all things by binding them? If you try to enforce your will upon something, you take away its freedom, closing the doors to
Not knowing how much karma we all have, surely, you are not suggesting that letting all the karma flow out will lead to liberation.....some people have have masses of karma and some have few, so for these karma to flow away, it could take many lifetimes/few for some.....yet, surely there is a more important question and that is how do we know that we are not creating new karma because one is "creating a new cause"
oushi wrote:If you subscribe to causality, you may see yourself as a cause for change, so you struggle with reality trying to shape it.
Cause of change is just an effect, it is impermanent, as most see it as reality, maybe we should be saying that it is an illusion because what we see isn't real, is it?
Maybe this will help:
In the film Matrix Reloaded where Neo was speaking to the Oracle in the courtyard:
O: how do you feel?
N: I eh!
O: I know you are not sleeping, we’ll get to that. Why don’t you come and have a seat.
N: maybe I’ll stand
O: well suit yourself.
N: I felt like sitting.
O: I know. So, let’s get the obvious stuff out of the way
N: you are not human are you?
O: well its tough to get any more obvious than that.
N: If I had to guess, I’d say you are a programme from the machine world, so is he.
O: so far so good.
N: but if that is true, that could mean you are part of the system, another kind of control.
O: keep going.
N: I suppose the most obvious question is, how can I trust you?
O: Bingo. It is a pickle, no doubt about it, bad news is there’s no way of you could really know whether I could help you or not, so it’s really up to you, just have to make up your own dam mind to either accept what I am going to tell you or reject it. Candy?
N: You already know if I am going to take it?
O: Wouldn’t be much of an oracle if I didn’t.
N: But if you already know, how can I make a choice?
O: Because you didn’t come here to make the choice, you’ve already made it. You’re here to try to understand why you made it. I thought you would have figured that out already.