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villkorkarma
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the four stages of enlightenment

Postby villkorkarma » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:04 pm

hey
webu sayadaw said that there is four stages of enlightenment/awakening, and that all of them can be achiveied if one practise without interreption.
the text is on sayadaws book - the ultimate comn, and on the chapter the flight of an arrow. at the homepage pariatty.com google his name then u find it very easy.
i would to know how hi meant with four different types of awakening.
it is one where one doesnt teach, one that one teach to others, the other ones i cant remembering.
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby bodom » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:17 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby villkorkarma » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:11 pm

why did he say 4 different types of awakening?
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby bodom » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:23 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby Sarva » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:26 pm

“Both formerly & now, it is only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress.” — SN 22:86

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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby villkorkarma » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:15 pm

what is calles a buddhas diciplie?
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby villkorkarma » Wed May 09, 2012 7:52 pm

but everyone teaches, so it isnt correct i am thinking, in other case.
why is it called a perfect buddha, all different buddhas isnt they perfect?
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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby Cittasanto » Wed May 09, 2012 8:29 pm

Without reading the chapter...
the three types of awakening are
1 - Sammasambuddha
2- Sambuddha
3 - Paccityabuddha (sp?)
the first two teach, the last does not, for the same reason the Present sammasambuddha almost didn't teach, because he saw it as to difficult due to the profound nature of what he had realised.
The seconds teachings do not last a long time if I remember correctly as they do not teach as thoroughly as the first, by the third generation (just a number off the top of my head not from a teaching I heard specifically) after they die the dispensation is dead also.
They are all equally enlightened, and by themselves, they are equally different to an Arahant disciple in this way, but they are not all skilled in teaching, or have the inclination to do so.

this is from memory and I may have the names for them wrong, and finer details.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: the four stages of enlightenment

Postby villkorkarma » Wed May 09, 2012 8:34 pm

okey equally enlightened, thats very nice :)
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )


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