gregkavarnos wrote: songhill wrote:
The real deludeds are the self
-deniers who don't understand the skillful means of our Lord.
“… just as the mother smeared her breasts with a nimba leaf ointment, so too did I say [to my “sick” monks]:‘Meditatively cultivate the understanding that all phenomena lack a self and are empty’. Just as the child’s mother later wiped her breasts clean and told the child to suckle, saying ‘Before, I could not allow you to suckle at my breasts until your medicinal butter had been digested, but now you can suckle’, so too I instructed [the monks] thus in order that they might be turned away from mundane phenomena, telling them that there is no Self; but now monks, because I teach that the tathâgatagarbha exists, do not be frightened like the child. Just as the child tested [his mother’s breasts] and then suckled at them, so too do I now teach that you monks should investigate the idea that the tathâgatagarbha exists within yourselves and strenuously apply yourselves to the meditative cultivation of it.” ~ Mahaparinirvana Sutra
Last chance to answer or I will consider what you are doing as trolling and act accordingly: What constitutes this "true self
A writer from a bygone era named George Grimm in "Buddhist Wisdom, The Mystery of the Self
," gave a detailed analysis of atta and anatta. In sum, he is saying you get to atta by way of what is an-atta. You can get to this conclusion also by Nagarjuna where he states that all conditioned things are primordially nirvana, meaning without essence, but not nothing because they are also peaceful. So we can understand no-essence is their "atta-hood," their true nature. If we look into our minds, its true nature is also like this. Such is Madhyamaka. While it cannot be pointed to, it encompasses all phenomena, meaning it's Mahamudra. There is nothing to be purified or improved, thus it Self
-Perfected from the beginning, meaning it's Great Perfection.