Aemilius wrote:catmoon wrote:Aemilius wrote:All movement is relative, i.e. all movement occurs in relation to other bodies (moving or stationary). There is no error in conceiving earth as stationary and sun as moving. It is a matter of perspective. Nevertheless, you have to be more accurate in geometry and physics. The ancient descriptions say that sun and moon move around Mount Sumeru.
A perceiver on earth will see that sun moves above equator and that sun thus makes a perfect circle around the South pole or the North pole. As a conclusion the only correct place for Sumeru is either the South Pole or the North Pole. For several reasons it seems logical that the South pole is the actual place of Mt Sumeru. I think the Mount Sumeru world map is hugely old, indians have inherited it from an earlier civilisation. It must be more than 200 000 years old, or come from that period in earth's history.
Experientally humans still perceive sun as moving and earth as stationary, it is very difficult to experience earth as moving and sun as stationary.
Good post except for one minor detail. The sun does not move above the equator. It does cross the equator twice a year but it's only in the right spot to fit this theory for a moment and the direction of motion is kind of wrong even then. For details Google "ecliptic".
Ecliptic is the sun's annual apparent path. But here I am referring to sun's apparent path during one 24 hour period, i.e. to the fact that when you are in the Northern hemisphere the sun at midday is in the South, and when you are in the Southern hemisphere the sun at midday is in the North. If you are in Athens at 12:00, you see the same sun as do the people in Johannesburg, but in Johannesburg they see it in the Northern direction.
Equator is the point in sun's 24 hour path, where it is right above you. This is how it is defined in classical geography. The point where sun is above you makes a circle around the globe during one 24 hour period, (or if you follow this point in imagination for 24 hours). If you now transfer this circle of equator into a flat earth cartogaphical presentation of Earth, it makes a circle around the Antartica or Southpole (or alternatively the Northpole, if you like). In this way sun's apparent path circles Mount Sumeru, which is here thought to be the Southpole or the axis that goes through Antarctica.
You are not making things any better, you are just piling new errors on top of old. You can trust me when I tell you that you have it all completely bassackwards, in spite of the fact that you opened with a correct statement. Now why can you trust me? I would suggest that it is because I was an amateur astronomer for twenty years, was president of the local astronomical society, and have studied physics at university.
BTW just for example....
Equator is the point in sun's 24 hour path, where it is right above you.
This is wrong like nine different ways. First off, there are many places on the Earth where the Sun is NEVER directly overhead. Like every single point outside the tropics ok? Next, even when the Sun is as high as it gets, it is not on the equator or a projection of the equator on the sky. Worse still, at noon on the summer solstice, when us northerners see the sun as high in the sky as we ever can, the sun isn't on the equator- it is in fact, as far as it can be from the equator, the full 23.5 degrees of the earth's inclination.
At some point here I'm hoping you will realize just how badly you have misconceived all this. Your attempt at astronomy, well it's kind of a nine-car pile-up on the freeway, you know? You really..... shouldn't be trying to do this. Please?