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Do you believe in rebirth?

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Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Sunrise » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:42 pm

Do you believe in rebirth?

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Reductor » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:59 pm

Yes.

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Anicca » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:50 pm

Howdy Sunrise!

Yes. Some say belief in it is not required. I think the Buddha would want you to be comfortable with your belief and not 'swallow more than you can chew' - when the time is right for you to know - you will know. All views are only worth letting go of in the end.

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Anicca » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:07 pm

Maybe ...time is change!

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:46 pm

I don't "believe", it makes sense.
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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:53 pm

yes
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Kenshou » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:10 pm

Agnostic. I have no idea what will happen in the future. So better make use of the present, I say.

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Jason » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:11 pm

I'm agnostic when it comes to the postmortem rebirth, assuming that's what you're referring to. I am, however, a firm believer in moment to moment rebirth, which is readily observable in the here and now. If you're interested, you can find more of my thoughts on the subject .
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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby theravada_guy » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:37 pm

Yes, I believe in rebirth. Coupled with kamma, to me, it's a fact. I've held similar beliefs when I was a Hindu, and that was for around six years. So, I would definitely say "yes".
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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Aloka » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:58 pm

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I take a neutral stance and neither believe nor disbelieve in rebirth.

I believe in moment to moment rebirth and consider speculation about any existence before and after this lifetime to be pointless. This is the lifetime that counts in the present !

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Shonin » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:58 pm

If I have lived before, then being reborn on that occasion (my life now) was/is indistinguishable from not being reborn. Why would it be different next time? Also, not believing in continuous and unique personal identity over and above a constructed sense of self it's a rather meaningless issue for me.

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:36 pm

I do believe in rebirth and kamma

check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OarxB-ds ... re=related
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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:34 pm

Greetings,

If I was a betting man, I'd be more likely to bet in favour of it than against it... and there's a variety of reasons why that's the case, but none of them constitute me in any way "knowing" rebirth is true, or even having grounds to fervently believe it to be so.

All in all, I don't think it's altogether relevant to one's Dhamma practice, unless your aim is something lower than stream-entry (or some non-Theravada bodhisattva thingamabob)

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Rui Sousa » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:42 pm

I believe there is a succession of rebirths in one mind continuum, and that each mind moment is bonded to the next by kamma.
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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby octathlon » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:27 am

Funny, I was going to report in as agnostic, but in the course of writing this post realized that I really do believe there is rebirth. So I had to come back up to the top and fix the intro. :tongue: It's just that I also still believe that I will die and that'll be the end of me.

On the one hand, years ago I had the experience in (non-Buddhist) meditation of seeing thousands of mental images of :quote: "what could be interpreted as past lives" sequentially flash before my eyes at blinding speed (actually it started slowly with time to observe each one, and got faster and faster and faster until it was so fast that it was too overwhelming to follow, yet each one appeared very distinctly for a nanosecond). No thoughts were occurring while this was happening.

But on the other hand what do I have? Not direct knowledge of rebirth, just a memory of an experience, an experience that doesn't "fit" into the normal state of mind, so it can only be interpreted through the filter of my personal views. I worry that these kinds of experiences can lead to wrong view that can get strongly embedded because of their intensity. :soap: So I never want to draw conclusions from them, and I didn't even realize I had done that in this case until typing this post and realizing 1) that I actually do believe in rebirth after all, and 2) that experience is probably why I do. :? Ugh, rambling now... it's been a long week. :zzz:

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Goedert » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:43 am

Neither believe or no believe.

I just try to study, do the paramis, and meditate. Maybe one day I will be able to see it if rebirth existes or not existes.

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby adeh » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:06 am

Yes, I do. I think it would be pretty pointless being a follower of the Buddha's Teaching if you thought there was no rebirth.

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Re: Do you believe in rebirth?

Postby Kenshou » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:12 am

How about for the end of suffering within this one life?


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