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Interview with the Arahat

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:26 am

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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby kirtu » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:40 pm

Probably the arhat thing was meant facetiously.

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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:49 pm

kirtu wrote:Probably the arhat thing was meant facetiously.

On his part? I'm not so sure.
See "Question #2: Why do you call yourself an arahat if you still are developing and changing?" here:

http://integrateddaniel.info/my-experiments-in-actualism/
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby Mkoll » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:42 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
kirtu wrote:Probably the arhat thing was meant facetiously.

On his part? I'm not so sure.
See "Question #2: Why do you call yourself an arahat if you still are developing and changing?" here:

http://integrateddaniel.info/my-experiments-in-actualism/

He does say ~2:08: "I might be just totally full of s**t." Those are his words, not mine.
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby duckfiasco » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:53 pm

I think it's refreshing to see someone talk openly about the things he does.
It can be very confusing and discouraging to see people for example negate that anyone has even the most basic attainment of stream-enterer.
But I suppose that's why I don't subscribe to the thousands of lifetimes to do anything worth a fart model of some schools.
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby Malcolm » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:09 am

duckfiasco wrote:But I suppose that's why I don't subscribe to the thousands of lifetimes to do anything worth a fart model of some schools.


That would be common Mahāyāna.
http://www.bhaisajya.net
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http://atikosha.org
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby duckfiasco » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:21 am

People have different experiences. I'm glad to see Mr. Ingram share his encouraging words, and his book was instrumental in bringing insight practice down from the lofty heavens into my own small and distracted practice.

Malcolm: :namaste:
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby plwk » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:58 am

Probably the arhat thing was meant facetiously.
Yeah, who knows huh, as discussed here?
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby greentara » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:38 pm

The arhat conversation with Buddha at the gas pump was interesting, at times idealistic, even good fun but lots and lots of chatter.
I'd much rather listen to Ajahn Sumedho.
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby kirtu » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:43 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
kirtu wrote:Probably the arhat thing was meant facetiously.

On his part? I'm not so sure.
See "Question #2: Why do you call yourself an arahat if you still are developing and changing?" here:

http://integrateddaniel.info/my-experiments-in-actualism/


He's not an Arhat because an Arhat will never even experience the arising of negative emotions. He says he experiences them still (they arise within his mind).

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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby Kunzang » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:36 pm

duckfiasco wrote:I'm glad to see Mr. Ingram share his encouraging words,



That's Dr. Ingram. After he attained nibbana he went to medical school - quite the overachiever! He used to work in the emergency room at one of the local hospitals here in Huntsville; "Dr. Dan" I heard he was called. He's since moved to Mississippi.

I read most of his book. One interesting thing was that some of the experiences he said he had when he attained 3rd jhanna were nearly identical to ones I had only a few weeks after beginning formal meditation. I was later told those are just "nyams", and not to cling to them - but I don't believe I've attained the 3rd jhanna. That's one of the curious things about the revived meditation tradition in Theravada - since the living experiential lineage of instruction died out, in their re-creation of it they have to speculate about what all the experiences that arise are and try to map them to the textual tradition but it's like they're groping around in the dark.
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby dzogchungpa » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:13 pm

According to the bio for the video, "He was also authorized and encouraged to teach by a lineaged abbot of the Mahasi Sayadaw tradition". Does anyone know what the story is with that?
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Re: Interview with the Arahat

Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:30 am

dzogchungpa wrote:According to the bio for the video, "He was also authorized and encouraged to teach by a lineaged abbot of the Mahasi Sayadaw tradition". Does anyone know what the story is with that?

OK, I did some digging around and I think I figured out what he's referring to.
From here: https://web.archive.org/web/20070615185258/http://www.bswa.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2216&forum=7&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=20
For those interested in the story about Sayadaw U Pandita, Junior, (not to be confused with Sayadaw U Pandita of Panditarama in Burma, though they are in the same lineage) he was the abbot of the Malaysian Buddhist Meditation Centre in Penang, Malaysia (a Mahasi Center) when I did my last retreat there in April, 2003, and during that time I made very good progress. I told him that I hadn't really taught much for 6 years and was thinking of teaching again. He looked me straight in the eye, and with an unusually loud voice said, "GOOD!" That's the story of getting permission to teach.
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